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Old 04-08-2011, 10:35 AM
 
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That's a more polite response. Definitely a safer way to go compared to Metlakatla's suggestion.

But if they want to get rid of you, there's really nothing stopping them if you live in an 'at will' state.
True, if they want to get rid of you or already have plans there's nothing you can do. I would, though, start looking for another job. Maybe as the others have said, she did that to give you a heads-up on looking for another job without her firing you.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:35 AM
 
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This is terrible advice. OP, don't do it.
It wasn't advice. It was a statement about what I'd be tempted to do in his place.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:38 AM
 
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Tough call. And tougher news, it definitely sounds like they want to let you go. I don't think there's any harm to replying politely: 'I believe you mistakenly sent this to me.' It's possible they get scared that you have in your possession a pretty sensitive email, (not to mention embarrassing to the reckless sender) and re-think the termination.
I'm not sure I want to let her know I recieved it. I was starting to think I was paranoid because I couldn't prove I was being "babied" whenever I asked a question about my job. If I let them know I'm aware I'll be given special treatement which I despise.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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You make sure you print out a few copies of that email and your email request for time off and keep them at home, DO NOT RESPOND TO IT.

She did exactly what Hopes said she did, she responded to All instead of taking your name off.

But she gave you a gift when she made that mistake.

It is highly unlikely you're going to find another job that quickly. From her email back to the other manager it sounds like it is coming down the pike really fast.

This is your proof that you are being let go.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:42 AM
 
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She realizes her mistake. That doesn't mean that you are off the chopping block.

You have two choices:

1) Look for another job. (It's possible that she intended for you to get that email so you would simply leave, saving them the hassle of coming up with a reason to fire you.)

2) Be a perfect employee and wait to be laid off. If you can't survive on unemployment, I don't recommend this option.


It's obvious that the email was about him. It was a response to his email, which clearly showed below. She replied to "all" instead of taking the time to remove his name for the distribution list. But I agree he should print out a copy of that email and take it home. He might need that email to win unemployment.


This is terrible advice. OP, don't do it.
I'm already looking for a new job, which sucks because I was payed well here. My performance is not being evaluated fairly. I've been perfect for three months. I think they didn't expect this and thought I would've made my final mistake months ago. Looks like they want to make sure when i get fired I can't complain to HR about unfair treatement and being singled out.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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^^ I hear ya, it IS a tough call, and yours to take. I'm hoping for your sake, they are impressed by the way you handled this slipup (by not escalating or displaying outrage) that they might reconsider your future there.

But whatever you do, don't follow metlakatla's advice or hypthetical scenario or whatever she wants to pass it off as.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:45 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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I sent this email to my manager's (I have 3) since I was turned down for a saturday off because 4 others already requested (and recieved) this day before me.

"OK that's fine. What is the earliest I can request for a day off. I was under the impression I could not request a day off too early in advanced.


Thank you."

A day later I recieved this email.

"Did you answer him? Due to how close he is to termination I want to make sure we don’t give him any reason to say we are not fair"

This was obviously not meant for me. I figure she replied by accident instead of forwarding it to the other manager. I've had previous conflict with this "new" management team. Comprised of all women who seem to favor the charming associates. Most of the complaints have been minor. I've been written up for talking (although I talk to my coworkers far less than the majoirty), Showing a picture of myself in the military (someone complained it was offensive) and for wearing part of a costume inside the building (I clocked out and I was leaving for the Halloween parade). I was told this was unprofessional behavior. I've been a machine (all work no play) for three months without any complaints. I thought I put my past actions behind me then I get this.

What would you do?
I would print out the email and take it to whomever is in charge of your MANAGERS and find out what the hell is going on. If they intend to terminate you then you need to know so that you can make the necessary plans to find another job. Nobody needs to be playing stupid little games with your job and your future, and YOU have the right to know what is going on.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:48 AM
 
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But whatever you do, don't follow metlakatla's advice or hypthetical scenario or whatever she wants to pass it off as.
Again, it wasn't advice.

But yes, I'd be tempted to do it in his position. Whether I would or not, I don't know. Game playing bosses have been off my list of problems for a number of years now.

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I don't think there's any harm to replying politely: 'I believe you mistakenly sent this to me.' It's possible they get scared that you have in your possession a pretty sensitive email, (not to mention embarrassing to the reckless sender) and re-think the termination.
???

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But whatever you do, don't follow metlakatla's advice or hypthetical scenario or whatever she wants to pass it off as.
LOL.

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Old 04-08-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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I would print out the email and take it to whomever is in charge of your MANAGERS and find out what the hell is going on. If they intend to terminate you then you need to know so that you can make the necessary plans to find another job. Nobody needs to be playing stupid little games with your job and your future, and YOU have the right to know what is going on.

20yrsinBranson
The real problem is that I've already had a talk with the regional a few months back and his only response was to trust the managers "he" selected. He asked to speak to me only because he was obligated to but he did not listen to a word I said. He told me perception is important. That tells me it doesn't matter what I do if I'm perceived by others in a negative way. I don't want to go over his head and force "daddy" to make everyone act "nice" to me. It'll just put me further under a magnifying glass.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:55 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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The real problem is that I've already had a talk with the regional a few months back and his only response was to trust the managers "he" selected. He asked to speak to me only because he was obligated to but he did not listen to a word I said. He told me perception is important. That tells me it doesn't matter what I do if I'm perceived by others in a negative way. I don't want to go over his head and force "daddy" to make everyone act "nice" to me. It'll just put me further under a magnifying glass.
Then go over his head.

Somebody in that company has to have a pair.

20yrsinBranson
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