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Actually, andywire, the MBA mindset has served manufacturing well. Read the financial reports of the larger ones, and they are all at historically high operating profit levels. The reality is low teens is the norm for most manufacturing jobs, with a small amount of highly silled spots earning more, and an equal size amount being below average in skills required earning less. For the most part, Employer Health Insurance has eaten up the budget for Direct Labor, so the employees have seen compensation increases, but it was not monetary.
The good news is, in most RTW states, that worker making $12-13 hour combined with a working spouse, can afford a decent, modest lifestyle. Just get over the illusion that plants with average wages in excess of $20 per hour are ever coming back. Those defense-related will stay as cost plus contracts allow them to bill their excessive labor costs, but new facilities will go where people will work for the more modest wage levels previously mentioned.
Whoever believes into this hype needs a reality check.
While the job picture isn't ideal it's at least getting better slowly. Now we just need some people to realize the jobs/salary they had during the boom are never coming back.
While the job picture isn't ideal it's at least getting better slowly. Now we just need some people to realize the jobs/salary they had during the boom are never coming back.
Suppl/demand. It's an employers market now. Back during the 90's and other boom years companies were fighting over finding workers. Today it's a dog-eat-dog thing to find-And even keep employment. The challenges of today are much larger.
Suppl/demand. It's an employers market now. Back during the 90's and other boom years companies were fighting over finding workers. Today it's a dog-eat-dog thing to find-And even keep employment. The challenges of today are much larger.
It depends on your profession. For highly skilled technical professions, it is the job seeker's market. As the economy continues to improve, I think we'll see more leverage for the job seeker in other highly skilled areas. However, I would agree with you in areas where there is structural unemployment (manufacturing, construction, etc).
It depends on your profession. For highly skilled technical professions, it is the job seeker's market. As the economy continues to improve, I think we'll see more leverage for the job seeker in other highly skilled areas.
I think this will always be the case. Things are becoming so specialized these days, and certain niche jobs are always difficult to fill. I don't foresee that trend ever reversing. The unfortunate thing is... In many cases, it requires a great deal of luck to land in a niche career...
So apparently manufacturing jobs are back in many hard
hit regions. Low skilled people are getting hired almost instantly
from what I hear. Does this mean the unemployed no longer
have a excuse to not have a job. Does it look bad on their part
that plants are hiring while they collect unemployment checks. Let's
discuss.
Yes the economy is so good, that if your not working NOW, its because you really don't want to work.
It depends on your profession. For highly skilled technical professions, it is the job seeker's market. As the economy continues to improve, I think we'll see more leverage for the job seeker in other highly skilled areas. However, I would agree with you in areas where there is structural unemployment (manufacturing, construction, etc).
Exactly.
The market is going to be different for everyone, based on their skills, knowledge, field, location, network, etc. There are always going to be some people who are more easily able to land another job than others.
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Now we just need some people to realize the jobs/salary they had during the boom are never coming back.
Again, that depends on a lot of factors. Many people have been doing quite well financially (in terms of salary, perks, etc) through this whole mess. There are people who are in higher positions and making more than they did 3-5 years ago. That is, unfortunately, not the case for others.
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