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Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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They'd probably just fire you on the account of even asking.
Yes, this is what would happen here for sure. You really can't have your cake and eat it too. If you don't like your job find another first, and then quit, or save up enough first to live on for a few months. Unemployment benefits are not for people who don't like their boss or want to move.
Some threads make me roll my eyes. Yes, unemployment is this big, free pot of money you can collect from whenever you decide you are unhappy where you live.
I can tell you, it's definitely negotiable if your manager is understandable. Employment is a 2 way street, big companies such as yours don't care as much about the hit on unemployment premiums. It's already budgeted.
The biggest obstacle is the amount of paper work that is involved in getting to that point. They need to see some type of reporting from your manager performance related to recommend letting you go for performance reasons. You can't mutually just part ways and still get benefits. That's consider quitting.
Ask your manager about performance expectations and then give them the idea that you're not capable of meeting that and then see if what they say you need to do. Lead them to believe that you're not able to comply then they will have to write you down for that and recommend you for performance terminations in the next quarterly review.
I am not in HR, but if you are let go for performance reasons, I believe that is akin to firing. Unemployment comes in when you are released in spite of you meeting all your job requirements. If you don't meet job requirements, then you are released 'for cause'. In almost any ''for cause' firing, though, there will be a period of probation between your initial sub-par review and your firing, during which you will have some goals to achieve to allow you to retain your job. If you believe that your job requirements are essentially impossible to achieve, than you can take your firing to the unemployment commission for arbitration.
Some threads make me roll my eyes. Yes, unemployment is this big, free pot of money you can collect from whenever you decide you are unhappy where you live.
... but can't afford to really quit, so you ask the employer to help you game the system. You get your nice little unemployment check, and they get zippo - except rid of you. smh
I can tell you, it's definitely negotiable if your manager is understandable. Employment is a 2 way street, big companies such as yours don't care as much about the hit on unemployment premiums. It's already budgeted.
The biggest obstacle is the amount of paper work that is involved in getting to that point. They need to see some type of reporting from your manager performance related to recommend letting you go for performance reasons. You can't mutually just part ways and still get benefits. That's consider quitting.
Ask your manager about performance expectations and then give them the idea that you're not capable of meeting that and then see if what they say you need to do. Lead them to believe that you're not able to comply then they will have to write you down for that and recommend you for performance terminations in the next quarterly review.
Of course, anyone who is capable of coming up with this scheme is the same person who will come back later with an attorney and sue their employer for wrongful termination. That way the gravy train never ends. I tell you, you can't make this stuff up. lol
... I wont ask for any severance package from them.
I am sure they will be happy about that!
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