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Old 04-20-2016, 02:34 PM
 
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^People aren't required to take low paying jobs.
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Old 04-20-2016, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Manhattan, NYC
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^People aren't required to take low paying jobs.
Alright... so should they just starve and die because they are not required to take low paying jobs, and there is no position for high paying jobs?

I suppose that anyone who's willing to contribute to society would accept any job at some point for the family.
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Old 04-20-2016, 04:30 PM
 
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Alright... so should they just starve and die because they are not required to take low paying jobs, and there is no position for high paying jobs?

I suppose that anyone who's willing to contribute to society would accept any job at some point for the family.
If someone is desperate, then by all means take whatever job one can get. The key is to go into the job knowing that it's only temporary until the person can move on to a better opportunity. Having vision and a plan should stop the anger.
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Old 04-20-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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What would you be saying if your guy was in the white house?

Probably something different than if it is the other guy's guy.

There in itself is the problem with talking politics with anyone. Most people lack the ability to critically think outside the echo chambers they visit for their talking points. Very few are interested in crossing party lines regardless if the candidate is better or not and most of you vote party lines without even bothering to spend more than 3 minutes looking at a handful of talking points. Most of which aren't going to change regardless of who is in office.

The economy is improving. Yes old industry jobs have been going overseas for a long time now. Yes, older industries are hurting and some are going away. Yes we are moving to a more service based economy.

Hate to break it to you but we were all warned about the giant sucking sound as jobs moved overseas. No one cared at the time because "cheap goods" and people have confirmed that by voting with their wallets over the last 20 + years.
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Old 04-20-2016, 05:13 PM
 
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If someone is desperate, then by all means take whatever job one can get. The key is to go into the job knowing that it's only temporary until the person can move on to a better opportunity. Having vision and a plan should stop the anger.
Yeah, you say that, meanwhile, the fat slob loser CEO guys use this to justify them continuing to get richer while they exploit everyone else. You just keep drinking the Koolaid.
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Old 04-20-2016, 05:14 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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There in itself is the problem with talking politics with anyone. Most people lack the ability to critically think outside the echo chambers they visit for their talking points.
Very true. Even things that have nothing to do with politics, they'll figure out a way to put politics in it. Natural disasters are a perfect example.
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Old 04-20-2016, 05:19 PM
 
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New distribution centers grow like mushrooms everywhere, dc jobs are average paying , but who's buying all the crap? It is not poetic exaggeration, there is a dc building boom all over.
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Old 04-20-2016, 06:03 PM
 
Location: USA
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There are jobs for skilled people that pay well and jobs for unskilled people that pay minimum wage, and very little in between. The days where a relatively unskilled or low skilled person could break in to the middle class through hard work alone are now gone. The low/moderate intelligence, good work ethic American can fight for scraps with the rest of the third world now.
Pretty much true.

God Bless America.
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Old 04-20-2016, 08:38 PM
 
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Pretty much true.

God Bless America.
As much as circular logic can be true. When $ is the only measure of "skills', it takes some assumtions and circular reasoning to come up with the above.
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:49 PM
 
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There are jobs for skilled people that pay well and jobs for unskilled people that pay minimum wage, and very little in between. The days where a relatively unskilled or low skilled person could break in to the middle class through hard work alone are now gone. The low/moderate intelligence, good work ethic American can fight for scraps with the rest of the third world now.
At what time in history did unskilled people make up the middle class?... why do you make the assumption that a person will remain unskilled? If someone is unskilled, sure start out at minimum wage jobs. Then use that and build their skills and work up. The reason unskilled people have a hard time breaking into the middle class is because they don't work at obtaining more skills. They work at obtaining more jobs that use the skills they have and not developing new ones.

Forget who else on here say this, but repeating the same job for 20 years is 1 year of experience done 19 more times. They can be the best minimum wage worker, but a professional minimum wage worker is still a minimum wage worker. To move up that, they need to start to add skills beyond that. If they have to take on extra duties at the job to learn more, or go back to school for it, or just look for different jobs to do it, they need to.
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