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Old 12-01-2016, 07:35 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Yes, it's very common and normal. When I was first promoted to supervisor here I had to replace myself. Despite doing my best to expedite HR in the recruitment, I had to do both jobs for a couple of months before finding a suitable replacement, then another couple of months working to get her up to speed.
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Old 12-01-2016, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Original post is a bit confusing. Promoted 3 weeks ago and doing both jobs for same money? Does this mean same money as her first job or 2nd job? If she got a raise then it's no big deal really. Getting paid more to do more temporarily. If it's the first, it's problematic but it happens all the time.
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Old 12-01-2016, 07:49 AM
 
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Original post is a bit confusing. Promoted 3 weeks ago and doing both jobs for same money? Does this mean same money as her first job or 2nd job? If she got a raise then it's no big deal really. Getting paid more to do more temporarily. If it's the first, it's problematic but it happens all the time.
The new salary
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Old 12-01-2016, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Stuck on the East Coast, hoping to head West
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At the better places I've worked, I trained (and sometimes hired) my replacement during a brief transition period.

At the not-great places I've worked, I would get the "promotion", but not the salary increase.

I'll take the first over the second any day.
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Old 12-01-2016, 08:18 AM
 
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Shows you how much of a joke these employee exploitation American companies are today. You want to work for corporate America? Get ready to be an abused, mindless, well programmed slave

They will realize she can do both jobs (probably going nuts in the process doing so) and won't find her a replacement for a long time if at all. Scumbag companies will gladly sacrifice he health of a good employee if it means saving a penny. And when they finally do find a replacement, it will probably be some clueless, inept, well connected idiot not even qualified for the job and it will go to crap and they will make her end up picking up the slack for the idiot

All the more reason to stay away from companies today
i'd love to know what YOU do for a living...
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Old 12-01-2016, 09:11 AM
 
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Still normal. Even in a lateral position you may be required to train your replacement. The best trainer is the person who successfully does a job daily and has specific experience to the position.








You have a horrible attitude towards work. There is no abuse and we are not slaves. There are necessary steps in business (while uncomfortable and annoying) that must be taken to keep it successful. The bigger picture is what too many people are so short-sighted that they can no longer see.


You are making wild assumptions about a company that none of us know anything about. This type of attitude is infectious and is the demise of departments in companies. Someone gets it set in their head that the company is just keeping them there to torture them and they infect others with the same mentality. Pretty soon you have a company full of people who are nasty, lazy, and full of gossip and are complaining that they can't get promoted. Then they spread rumors that Susie or John is getting promoted on who they know and not what they know. Never once stopping to think that maybe management didn't want one of these vile people filling that position so they looked for the person who was the most willing and most positive to try and restore some sense of civility in the company. You shoot your own self in the foot and then blame it on someone else.


Those people then come on C-D and tell us how bad companies really are with hopes of spreading their infectious and deceitful gossip to others just for self-gratification. This can accomplish nothing but a society full of hopeless people who have no desire or drive to be successful in anything other than wallowing in their own self pity. Have you ever taken a second to look at that?


Right.... So its the employees infecting the other employees to having low morale and worker disengagement. Not terrible employers, worker exploitation, LOUSY hires (Be it through nepotism or cronyism who are immune to any bad consequences for lousy performance, and everyone has to pick the slack up for) , no loyalty for their own (Would rather hire the inept relative or friend instead of the dependable, already knowledgable of the process employees at the company), and greed at the top (record high company profits, record LOW raises and employee compensation.. Yea the upper execs need that third yacht or Lamborghini) ..

Gotcha..


What amazes me more are corporate apologists who actually defend this type of thing that is the TRUE cause of low morale. Not other freaking co-workers. ROFLMAO


Sorry I don't share you're "just take it and love it" attitude.
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Old 12-01-2016, 09:29 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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i'd love to know what YOU do for a living...
Sounds like a chemist/scientist from what he wrote.
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Old 12-01-2016, 09:35 AM
 
Location: South Florida
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Right.... So its the employees infecting the other employees to having low morale and worker disengagement. Not terrible employers, worker exploitation, LOUSY hires (Be it through nepotism or cronyism who are immune to any bad consequences for lousy performance, and everyone has to pick the slack up for) , no loyalty for their own (Would rather hire the inept relative or friend instead of the dependable, already knowledgable of the process employees at the company), and greed at the top (record high company profits, record LOW raises and employee compensation.. Yea the upper execs need that third yacht or Lamborghini) ..

Gotcha..


What amazes me more are corporate apologists who actually defend this type of thing that is the TRUE cause of low morale. Not other freaking co-workers. ROFLMAO


Sorry I don't share you're "just take it and love it" attitude.

Whaaaaaaat?
Your posts are very angry and it seems you expect others to make you happy.
It's noone's business if the upper execs have 16 yachts and Lamborghinis.


If you don't like the game...start your own business.
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Old 12-01-2016, 09:35 AM
 
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Still normal. Even in a lateral position you may be required to train your replacement. The best trainer is the person who successfully does a job daily and has specific experience to the position.








You have a horrible attitude towards work. There is no abuse and we are not slaves. There are necessary steps in business (while uncomfortable and annoying) that must be taken to keep it successful. The bigger picture is what too many people are so short-sighted that they can no longer see.


You are making wild assumptions about a company that none of us know anything about. This type of attitude is infectious and is the demise of departments in companies. Someone gets it set in their head that the company is just keeping them there to torture them and they infect others with the same mentality. Pretty soon you have a company full of people who are nasty, lazy, and full of gossip and are complaining that they can't get promoted. Then they spread rumors that Susie or John is getting promoted on who they know and not what they know. Never once stopping to think that maybe management didn't want one of these vile people filling that position so they looked for the person who was the most willing and most positive to try and restore some sense of civility in the company. You shoot your own self in the foot and then blame it on someone else.


Those people then come on C-D and tell us how bad companies really are with hopes of spreading their infectious and deceitful gossip to others just for self-gratification. This can accomplish nothing but a society full of hopeless people who have no desire or drive to be successful in anything other than wallowing in their own self pity. Have you ever taken a second to look at that?

So your career in corporate America has gone well so far. Just get back to us once you have experience with a terrible boss, or corruption, or things not going your way. It's just a matter of time, happens to most. You sound naive.
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Old 12-01-2016, 09:36 AM
 
Location: South Florida
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You have a horrible attitude towards work. There is no abuse and we are not slaves. There are necessary steps in business (while uncomfortable and annoying) that must be taken to keep it successful. The bigger picture is what too many people are so short-sighted that they can no longer see.


You are making wild assumptions about a company that none of us know anything about.


Well said
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