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I think I know it's for us to figure out (really? That's an obvious) and have been doing that already but they want the necessary industry experience hence it doesn't hurt to ask how others did it in such fields when they just have their ba.
It's all been said. The Pol Sci degree is worthless on the job market. You either need to go back and get a Computer/Technology, engineering,or healthcare professional degree, get a trade, join the military and become an officer, go to a coding boot camp etc. As it is right now, the pol sci degree is not marketable. As I said, Aaron Clarey wrote a book about and has a whole youtube channel where he talks about liberal arts degrees.
It's all been said. The Pol Sci degree is worthless on the job market. You either need to go back and get a Computer/Technology, engineering,or healthcare professional degree, get a trade, join the military and become an officer, go to a coding boot camp etc. As it is right now, the pol sci degree is not marketable. As I said, Aaron Clarey wrote a book about and has a whole youtube channel where he talks about liberal arts degrees.
I am aware of that man's book and have read some of the reviews (although haven't read the book itself). He says people should only go into just a few college programs, mainly STEM degree fields. The problem with that is, there aren't enough jobs to go around even in those fields. Most of these STEM jobs are increasingly given to people with H1-B visas, because they can be hired for cheaper by employers. Everyone I know who has been through long term unemployment was in the IT field. I know many engineers who have been laid off. Healthcare jobs although they can't be outsourced, they are "insourced" - hospitals now hire as many people from other countries as they can for these jobs. There is a job crisis in the USA. Telling people to not major in liberal arts won't help anything.
If we were to get a certificate in Regulatory Affairs, that program itself costs over a couple thousand by a university that offers it via Extension. Now if our goal is to get into Regulatory affairs via a pharm/med device company, would this certificate in itself allow entry into an RA role (on top of having your bachelors in liberal arts)? And not just paying 38k annually, but well above that entry level
I am aware of that man's book and have read some of the reviews (although haven't read the book itself). He says people should only go into just a few college programs, mainly STEM degree fields. The problem with that is, there aren't enough jobs to go around even in those fields. Most of these STEM jobs are increasingly given to people with H1-B visas, because they can be hired for cheaper by employers. Everyone I know who has been through long term unemployment was in the IT field. I know many engineers who have been laid off. Healthcare jobs although they can't be outsourced, they are "insourced" - hospitals now hire as many people from other countries as they can for these jobs. There is a job crisis in the USA. Telling people to not major in liberal arts won't help anything.
But at least IT and engineering gives you real world skills in working with technology and machines. As a worst case scenario you could dumb down your resume, do some fudging and work help desk, equipment operator etc.
At least you have a fighting chance with these "marketable degrees."
Political science and other liberal arts frankly doesn't.
Poli sci is good for personal enrichment and analaytical/writing ability but yes per above it is useless like the history or philosophy degree. They need to jettison these degrees now as they are worthless ad hoc programs and just stepping stones; wish universities would be pragmatic and put disclaimers for liberal arts folks prior to enrolling that says "please note you should use this background mostly as a stepping stone to a grad degree program"
Only time it's useful is if it's obtained at Princeton since Wall Street will recruit any and all majors at target schools, whereas most companies look for specific backgrounds
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If we were to get a certificate in Regulatory Affairs, that program itself costs over a couple thousand by a university that offers it via Extension. Now if our goal is to get into Regulatory affairs via a pharm/med device company, would this certificate in itself allow entry into an RA role (on top of having your bachelors in liberal arts)? And not just paying 38k annually, but well above that entry level
Still looking?
Pharm sales is a tough racket.
What fields ARE you interested in, forgetting money for a bit.
Definitely interested in pharmaceutical sales as I volunteered and did research with a dr on neurological deficits, used to volunteer at university hospital and helped someone weekly with mobility issues who had Parkinson's Disease, so the healthcare field in general. All roles I applied tho with pharmacy sales despite my background degree and then some was rejected due to other candidates who's experience more closely aligned with job reqs it said (I just applied to entry level pharmacy sales of course). Yet still nothing; I delineated my volunteer experience and research volunteer work, highlighting medical terminology knowledge, and still, entry level won't materialize
Definitely interested in pharmaceutical sales as I volunteered and did research with a dr on neurological deficits, used to volunteer at university hospital and helped someone weekly with mobility issues who had Parkinson's Disease, so the healthcare field in general. All roles I applied tho with pharmacy sales despite my background degree and then some was rejected due to other candidates who's experience more closely aligned with job reqs it said (I just applied to entry level pharmacy sales of course). Yet still nothing
One has to have some certain to get into pharm sales. Forgot the licensing agencies. Just google it. Think it's like 800-1000
Poli sci is good for personal enrichment and analaytical/writing ability but yes per above it is useless like the history or philosophy degree. They need to jettison these degrees now as they are worthless ad hoc programs and just stepping stones; wish universities would be pragmatic and put disclaimers for liberal arts folks prior to enrolling that says "please note you should use this background mostly as a stepping stone to a grad degree program"
Only time it's useful is if it's obtained at Princeton since Wall Street will recruit any and all majors at target schools, whereas most companies look for specific backgrounds
The problem lies in how a university education is being treated as vocational school, which it is not and never was. Not every degree will lead to a job, it never did in the whole history of the university system. The exception is traditional university studies such as law, medicine, or some other scientific field.
If someone just wants "to get a job" then they would be better off studying a trade at a community college or tech school.
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