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Old 11-17-2017, 07:27 AM
 
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probably true, but my point is that even with those requirements plenty of people meeting them are applying, and for what is not a lot of money here. For employers, there is no need to offer more money or lower the requirements when the job is in such high demand.
Low end jobs are always going to be in high demand, and they're also going to be in much higher supply. Do you realize how many help desk jobs there are in this country? Your job was probably 1 of 50 that many of them applied for that day.

You got 132 applicants; probably some were bots, probably some were people applying for anything and everything, and probably the other 1/3 were serious candidates. That doesn't necessarily mean your position is in that high of demand either. I get hit up almost daily by recruiters ("Hello, this is Paul Nishanqunadabana, I have a 6-month contract position with so-and-so..."), but I don't delude myself into thinking that I'm some diamond in the rough that is highly sought after. No, most of these recruiters are phishing for information and mass calling in hopes to get a bite or two. Likely, the same goes for your low end help desk job applicants.
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Old 11-17-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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3 years experience is not entry level.
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Old 11-17-2017, 07:46 PM
 
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I hate to break it to you, but someone has to do those "low value" jobs, many of which probably make your life much easier and more pleasant. Even if everyone had the right skills, someone would still end up doing them. Is it really too much to expect that they should be paid enough to make a living, and maybe, just maybe, even get a little respect from those who benefit from their labor?

Reality Check: Most low level jobs will be automated within a few years.
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Old 11-18-2017, 07:00 AM
 
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probably true, but my point is that even with those requirements plenty of people meeting them are applying, and for what is not a lot of money here. For employers, there is no need to offer more money or lower the requirements when the job is in such high demand.
It's not like they would anyway being cheapskates and all.
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Old 11-18-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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This whole "recovery" was propelled by low wage job creation replacing once good paying jobs, and record profit taking. Workers are having trouble getting by? What else is new?

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Old 11-18-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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This whole "recovery" was propelled by low wage job creation replacing once good paying jobs, and record profit taking. Working are having trouble getting by? What else is new?
Hate to say but it's mostly true. So when someone goes on about "unemployment is the lowest its been since X". Alright but what jobs are people getting now to replace their previous unemployment? Does the job fall under the "Gig" economy where you are independent contractor as opposed to an employee, are you scrapping by on 10-14$ an hour or is it something "decent", part time or full time etc...

Yes jobs are coming back and that is a good thing but one has to look at exactly what type of jobs are coming back.
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Old 11-18-2017, 03:33 PM
 
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Personal care, home health industries expected to add 1.2M jobs by 2026, but pay is low.

The largest two categories of America's fastest-growing jobs offer some of the country’s lowest wages and weakest benefits.

Over the next ten years, analysts expect to see 1.2 million more jobs for home health and personal care aides, according to a report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That’s more positions than the projected job creation in the eight other most rapidly growing fields combined.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b878da33a297
This is driven by BabyBoomers's getting old, people generally living longer and doing so with various chronic conditions.

These jobs "should" be higher paid jobs given the huge demand. However our HC system and it's constituent providers, most of whom are giant corporations, have managed to keep the pay low while flattening pay for nurses, orderlies, aides and other bread and butter jobs.

The nursing home where my father spent his last six months was something like $1000/day yet the people working their were less impressive than the average Home Depot employee and about 75% were non US natives. HC workers need more bargaining power but try to organize and find out how fast you lose your job.
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Old 11-18-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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Reality Check: Most low level jobs will be automated within a few years.
True. But most high level jobs are also going to be automated within a few years.
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Old 11-18-2017, 07:27 PM
 
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The problem is those jobs need to be done, they are not subject to automation. American college graduates don't want them and it's impractical to shift the patients to some two-bit country. True, Japan sent many of their elderly to the Philippines (where labor was cheaper) but the distance wasn't as far.
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Old 11-18-2017, 08:54 PM
 
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Reality Check: Most low level jobs will be automated within a few years.
How can you automate home health or nursing homes? Invent a diaper changer and a car wash bather?
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