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Old 11-16-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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What I don't understand is, they pay such low wages yet nursing home care is outrageously expensive. what the heck are they spending the money on.
They do with it what all corporations do with their profits, they put them in stockholders pockets as dividends. Trickle down is the biggest farce ever put over on the middle and lower classes. People want to believe health care is still a more altruistic type business than a car factory is, but they're not any different than that in terms of being profit-driven. Almost all nursing homes are privately owned and for-profit now, with the exception of a few remaining religion-affiliated homes and county-owned homes. These places tend to pay a bit better and are often union, at least the county-run facilities.
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Old 11-16-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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What I don't understand is, they pay such low wages yet nursing home care is outrageously expensive. what the heck are they spending the money on.
These aren't nursing home workers. They're babysitters, except the babies are retirees. There's no specific educational requirements and they don't provide medical services.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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These aren't nursing home workers. They're babysitters, except the babies are retirees. There's no specific educational requirements and they don't provide medical services.
They aren't medical personnel, but they are far more skilled than babysitters. Try walking in their shoes for a week then judge them. I'd like to see you transfer a 250 pound man who is paralyzed on one side, put a shirt on a woman who has a post-op surgical brace on her arm without hurting her, get a 90 year old with dementia to trust you enough to eat from your spoon or give her a bath. They are trained, and they go through a certification process that requires education.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey area
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These aren't nursing home workers. They're babysitters, except the babies are retirees. There's no specific educational requirements and they don't provide medical services.
Regardless to their education, they are notoriously paid peanuts. So once again, if you are paying them 10-12 bucks an hour and nursing home care is over 60-70K to upwards of 100K a year what the h-e- double hockey sticks is the money being use for?/
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Old 11-16-2017, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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Regardless to their education, they are notoriously paid peanuts. So once again, if you are paying them 10-12 bucks an hour and nursing home care is over 60-70K to upwards of 100K a year what the h-e- double hockey sticks is the money being use for?/
somebody already answered you.
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Old 11-16-2017, 02:30 PM
 
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We recently had an opening (one) for what would be our entry level IT position, help Desk starting at about $55k. The requirements include 3 years experience and 4 year degree. We got 132 applicants during a short, 3 day job announcement.
3 years experience is not entry level.
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Old 11-17-2017, 03:20 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Meh, get the right skills and you don't have to worry about having a low value position.
I hate to break it to you, but someone has to do those "low value" jobs, many of which probably make your life much easier and more pleasant. Even if everyone had the right skills, someone would still end up doing them. Is it really too much to expect that they should be paid enough to make a living, and maybe, just maybe, even get a little respect from those who benefit from their labor?
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Old 11-17-2017, 05:34 AM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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I hate to break it to you, but someone has to do those "low value" jobs, many of which probably make your life much easier and more pleasant. Even if everyone had the right skills, someone would still end up doing them. Is it really too much to expect that they should be paid enough to make a living, and maybe, just maybe, even get a little respect from those who benefit from their labor?
But don't you see? Everyone can pull themselves up by the bootstraps and be a CEO! The market can handle endless amounts of CEOs, doctors, lawyers, and engineers!
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Old 11-17-2017, 06:48 AM
 
Location: USA
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Why pay an employee a living wage when you can just dump them on the public assistance rolls like Walmart does.
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Old 11-17-2017, 07:22 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Help desk is not a position that needs a bachelor's degree, nor should it require three years of help desk experience to get that first job. With three years of IT experience, motivated staff are going to look beyond help desk.
probably true, but my point is that even with those requirements plenty of people meeting them are applying, and for what is not a lot of money here. For employers, there is no need to offer more money or lower the requirements when the job is in such high demand.
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