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Old 05-09-2018, 01:37 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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To be honest, now you say it, I completely agree. The situation was pretty bad for them. They were asked to login to their computers, watch friendly Powerpoint presentations, and drink free beverages in an air conditioned office all day, and get paid for it all at the same time! What kind of MONSTER would do that to someone?? Hopefully we don't get sued for their PTSD or something...
And again it wasn't worth it for them. The pay and benefits offered by the temp agency (and knowing temp agencies it was little or no benefits and very poor pay) was not sufficient to attract and retain an acceptable level of worker for you. Either they got better jobs, decided to devote their time to seeking a better job, or just decided it wasn't worth waking up in the morning and commuting for.

Staffing agencies are the employer of last resort. You should expect that any workers from them will jump ship the minute they get something better and just about anything is.
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Old 05-09-2018, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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And again it wasn't worth it for them. The pay and benefits offered by the temp agency (and knowing temp agencies it was little or no benefits and very poor pay) was not sufficient to attract and retain an acceptable level of worker for you. Either they got better jobs, decided to devote their time to seeking a better job, or just decided it wasn't worth waking up in the morning and commuting for.

Staffing agencies are the employer of last resort. You should expect that any workers from them will jump ship the minute they get something better and just about anything is.
I agree. I get a laugh out of employers who get mad when temps quit their jobs.
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Old 05-09-2018, 04:46 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Yea I had a really obnoxious one a few weeks back for a pharmaceutical chemist with a laundry list of qualifications for a 6 month contract that may go for 8 months or more for arround $25 an hour and they were demanding candidates commit for at least 8 months. Uh no. No one not desperate with those qualifications will work at all for that and expecting them to stay for 8 months is just complete stupidity. They will stay until they get a direct position.
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:54 AM
 
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Not really. They help you find a job. They get their cut. True, a lot of the "jobs" they send you to are not very good.

Last one started me out $10 an hour but now I'm all the way up to $18/hr now at this one factory. It's worked out grreattt.
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:15 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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I agree. I get a laugh out of employers who get mad when temps quit their jobs.
Right???


That said, I segued into my current career via a temp job. Then again, they were one of the main agencies for a particular massive company in that city and they handled all their temp contracts in a couple of specific departments...so if you wanted a temp/hourly worker, you went through that company.


A friend of a friend actually reached out to me, told me what their needs were, and asked if I thought I could handle it. My exact words were "how hard could it be?"


13 years later here I am in that same career making over six figures.
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:27 AM
 
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That said, I segued into my current career via a temp job. Then again, they were one of the main agencies for a particular massive company in that city and they handled all their temp contracts in a couple of specific departments...so if you wanted a temp/hourly worker, you went through that company.


A friend of a friend actually reached out to me, told me what their needs were, and asked if I thought I could handle it. My exact words were "how hard could it be?"


13 years later here I am in that same career making over six figures.
That's great but it;s anecdotal. You also should realize lots of things have changed in the temp industry over the past decade, especially after the long recession years.


And nobody here ever said it was "impossible" to get a perm job through temping.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:34 AM
 
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That's great but it;s anecdotal. You also should realize lots of things have changed in the temp industry over the past decade, especially after the long recession years.


And nobody here ever said it was "impossible" to get a perm job through temping.
Trust me, I get it. I'm seeing my own profession ruined by temping/contractors.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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Some companies do hire their temp/contractors but they are a distinct minority. Most just treat them as second class citizens

The WE Upjohn Institute for Employment Research found 27 of temp to hire jobs and 18% of contract jobs overall lead to direct employment. Those are not good odds. I would leave contract/temp/staffing agencies as a last resort and continue seeking employment full effort and leave the second you get it.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:36 AM
 
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Trust me, I get it. I'm seeing my own profession ruined by temping/contractors.
Mine especially. It hurts the good companies that hire chemists as well as a lot of the good and experienced ones have left the profession over this crap.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:49 AM
 
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Some companies do hire their temp/contractors but they are a distinct minority. Most just treat them as second class citizens

The WE Upjohn Institute for Employment Research found 27 of temp to hire jobs and 18% of contract jobs overall lead to direct employment. Those are not good odds. I would leave contract/temp/staffing agencies as a last resort and continue seeking employment full effort and leave the second you get it.
the stat sounds good... at 25%+ hired rate

the rest would be people that did poorly, people who were offered the job but turned them down and positions that really are temp so they would not offer a full time spot for

about 1/4 in each of those categories is a pretty even split and after accounting the offers that were made but turned down, they would be offering a job to nearly half the contract workers

about the rate i seen for agency workers here, half the time they are offered a job but most turn it down since they have their next contract and would rather go there
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