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LOL Memphis is a bigger trendsetter than all of the UK combined this century. I never seee anybody in the US emulating UK trends. It's the complete opposite. When it comes to trendsetting, London can't touch NY nor can it touch many smaller US cities. Take your banks and smoke them but you're not going to claim cultural influence or significance over NY.
Cultural Influence
As far as I recall Britain was instrumental in the establishment of the US itself, your constitution and even place names throughout many parts of the country.
Britain has a well ducumented cultural impact from literature and art through to fashion through to popular music.
David Bowie who sadly died recently was a case in point, as were the Rolling Sones, Kinks, Beatles, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Black Sabbath, Queen, T.Rex, Fleetwood Mac, Def Leppard, Genesis, Oasis, Coldplay, Radiohead, and numerous other such acts.
London Fashion week is one of the most inportant in the world and the British Film Industry even produces many Hollywood Blockbusters from Star Wars and Indiana Jones through to Gravity and Game of Thrones.
The list of British Writers and Authors is vast and it should be noted than today even marks 400 years since the death of William Shakespeare.
For a small island we have had a significant impact on Global Culture and continue to be a very innovative country.
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LOL Memphis is a bigger trendsetter than all of the UK combined this century. I never seee anybody in the US emulating UK trends. It's the complete opposite. When it comes to trendsetting, London can't touch NY nor can it touch many smaller US cities. Take your banks and smoke them but you're not going to claim cultural influence or significance over NY.
you're so wrong man, the UK has the best music by far ... the US a distant second. So many british bands that had and still have a very strong influence, from the Beatles to Pink Floyd, or Rolling Stone, or more recently Radiohead or Arctic Monkeys, or the super popular Adele ... or Black Sabbath who basically invented metal
When it comes to music you gotta give it to the Brits
you're so wrong man, the UK has the best music by far ... the US a distant second. So many british bands that had and still have a very strong influence, from the Beatles to Pink Floyd, or Rolling Stone, or more recently Radiohead or Arctic Monkeys, or the super popular Adele ... or Black Sabbath who basically invented metal
When it comes to music you gotta give it to the Brits
This is extremely subjective, especially when it comes to what type of music you like. We have Michael Jackson, Aretha Franklin, Elvis, Beyonce, Prince, Madonna, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Billie Holiday, Nirvana, Guns N roses, Red Hot Chilli peppers, ect. So saying that the US is a distant second is a pretty huge exaggeration.
As far as I recall Britain was instrumental in the establishment of the US itself, your constitution and even place names throughout many parts of the country.
LOL That was 300 years ago. You guys aren't that desperate, are you? It makes no sense for British people to claim our forefathers.
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Britain has a well ducumented cultural impact from literature and art through to fashion through to popular music. David Bowie who sadly died recently was a case in point, as were the Rolling Sones, Kinks, Beatles, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Black Sabbath, Queen, T.Rex, Fleetwood Mac, Def Leppard, Genesis, Oasis, Coldplay, Radiohead, and numerous other such acts.
I'm speaking specifically on British culture, not Brits who were influenced by American culture playing American music genres.
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London Fashion week is one of the most inportant in the world and the British Film Industry even produces many Hollywood Blockbusters from Star Wars and Indiana Jones through to Gravity and Game of Thrones.
Yes, it's big but it's not as big as NY. Besides that I don't consider fashion weeks a testament to a city's cultural influence. Popular culture is and as far as popular culture and its influence goes the UK can't compare to smaller US cities let alone NY.
All in all if it wasn't for the US or if we were a German speaking country instead, London wouldn't be as important. Part of the reason London's economy is what it is is thanks to the US's significance that made English the world's language which brought so many huge corporations and banks to the UK.
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I'm speaking specifically on British culture, not Brits who were influenced by American culture by playing American music genres.
It's highly simplistic to state those British bands are playing American genres. You do realise music was being made in Britain since before the US was even established, right? Or that there were records being made in Britain around the same time as in the US? In fact a great deal of early American music, such as country for instance, was largely based on British and Irish folk music. And this was fused with styles brought over by African slaves to give us gospel and the blues etc.
And most of those bands mentioned, whilst owing a debt to American music, were still informed by British music, culture and character*, and it's this which separated the earlier British bands in the early sixties from American music which, some say, had become somewhat stagnant and needed the massive shot in the arm it received from the first British Invasion which brought music which was less polished but noticeably more edgy. And since then there has been a rather symbiotic relationship between Britain and the US and the music coming from those two nations. Not to mention the influence of music from the rest of the world!
* A good example of this would be a band like The Kinks, who started off aping America RnB and Blues music, but then made a conscious effort to Anglicise their sound with English folk and music hall influences which is what the band are most well-known for.
This is extremely subjective, especially when it comes to what type of music you like. We have Michael Jackson, Aretha Franklin, Elvis, Beyonce, Prince, Madonna, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Billie Holiday, Nirvana, Guns N roses, Red Hot Chilli peppers, ect. So saying that the US is a distant second is a pretty huge exaggeration.
those bands/singers are not as influential and the music they produced is not as great as what british bands produced. It's a distant second compared to Pink Floyd, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Yes, Genesis, Queen, Elton John, David Bowie, Jethro Tull, Black Sabbath, The Who, Deep Purple, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin. Guns n roses are great but they're no Les Zeppelin. Michael Jackson has nice catchy songs but he's not in the same league as Elton John. and so on.
The best the US has to offer is The Doors (love that band), Jimmi Hendrix, Ray Charles, Bob Dylan and Santana (a genius) if you consider him as an American (he's more Mexican than American to me), and probably a few others
It's highly simplistic to state those British bands are playing American genres. You do realise music was being made in Britain since before the US was even established, right? Or that there were records being made in Britain around the same time as in the US? In fact a great deal of early American music, such as country for instance, was largely based on British and Irish folk music. And this was fused with styles brought over by African slaves to give us gospel and the blues etc.
And most of those bands mentioned, whilst owing a debt to American music, were still informed by British music, culture and character*, and it's this which separated the earlier British bands in the early sixties from American music which, some say, had become somewhat stagnant and needed the massive shot in the arm it received from the first British Invasion which brought music which was less polished but noticeably more edgy. And since then there has been a rather symbiotic relationship between Britain and the US and the music coming from those two nations. Not to mention the influence of music from the rest of the world!
* A good example of this would be a band like The Kinks, who started off aping America RnB and Blues music, but then made a conscious effort to Anglicise their sound with English folk and music hall influences which is what the band are most well-known for.
Country is its own genre and Brits can't take credit for it just because one of country music's great great grandparents was English folk music. Country's roots are the blues and American folk music. American folk descends from European folk because our ancestors were European, not because Americans were influenced by European folk. I'm sick of foreigners trying to take credit for and minimize everything the US does. It's always such a reach.
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Brits, Aussies and other rugby nations also minimize American football calling it "rugby with pads" even though football players are bigger and stronger, you hit blind spots, you can hit with no arms, you can shoulder charge, etc
You can't hit above the horizontal in rugby and you can't shoulder charge. Jarryd Hayne that big shot Aussie rugby player/NFL prospect didn't even last one season in the NFL and had 3 fumbles in 6 games. Then makes a fair catch and whines like a soccer player when Janis barely touches him.
I would say it's been so - at least definitively - for the past 5-7 years.
However, as the poll above shows, most people have yet to cotton onto recent dynamics in global city metrics.
It'd be fun to look at developments in China. The biggest Chinese cities account for a whopping amount of trade and financing. And look at how fast they've grown.
All in all if it wasn't for the US or if we were a German speaking country instead, London wouldn't be as important. Part of the reason London's economy is what it is is thanks to the US's significance that made English the world's language which brought so many huge corporations and banks to the UK.
Well, not quite... my first language would be French, if it weren't for Britain taking over New France. The spread of British Empire had way more to do with the spread of English than the 20C rise of the USA. The current prominence of US pop culture shouldn't be overstated. It's dominant, yes, but it hasn't entirely smothered the English national cultures of Canada, Australia, NZ, the Caribbean former British colonies, South Africa, some of India, so on and so forth. US anglophone culture built on a solid foundation spread by British government, commercial, and educational systems/networks.
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