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Tokyo is far superior to London and New York in a ton of aspects. It's a far nicer place to live than those two, the rent is so much cheaper and the crime rate is like a billion times lower it's not even funny.
New York City actually had its lowest crime rate on record in 2017. For an American city, it is very safe right now. The city has implemented very effective crime-prevention policies. Per capita, I believe New York City is actually safer now than Seattle, which is mind-boggling.
I am aware that Tokyo is quite safe too. East Asians in general are known to have a very low violent crime rate. Even in the U.S., people of East Asian ancestry commit way less violent crimes than people of many other racial or ethnic backgrounds (including white). It's been that way for decades.
New York City actually had its lowest crime rate on record in 2017. For an American city, it is very safe right now. The city has implemented very effective crime-prevention policies.
New York City records the same amount of homicides as the entire nation of Japan annually. Japan's population is 120 million. It's a sad comparison.
The truth is even the safest American city is far more dangerous than anywhere than Japan. Far more.
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Tokyo is far superior to London and New York in a ton of aspects. It's a far nicer place to live than those two, the rent is so much cheaper and the crime rate is like a billion times lower it's not even funny.
It's question of personal taste, in terms of diversity, green space and architecture I prefer both London and NYC over Tokyo, although Tokyo is a great city.
I certainly would not agree that Tokyo is a nicer place to live, and as for affordable housing London is currently investing in a lot of affordable housing, whilst all new housing schemes much include affordable housing. The current Mayor has stated that he wants 65% of new housing to be affordable, and new schemes are now going ahead, whilst at the same time many council (projects) type estates have been demolished and replaced by better quality new housing.
Whilst crime in London is relatively low for a city of 8.8 million, with around 120 murders in the last 12 months and over half of recorded violent crime resulting in no injury whatsoever, and the vast majority of the rest of violent crime being of a very minor nature. It also should be noted that a substantial number of murders are as a result of domestic violence.
Local Authorities can also now boost local taxes to fund extra police under new recent measures and Central Government has also released new funding.
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New York City records the same amount of homicides as the entire nation of Japan annually. Japan's population is 120 million. It's a sad comparison.
The truth is even the safest American city is far more dangerous than anywhere than Japan. Far more.
That is probably true. But normal, middle-class Americans are not really much affected by crime in New York City or in most other places in America. It’s mainly the poor that are affected, and even just a subsection of that.
New York City streets are still rather dirty though. So are the subways. Those are issues the city needs to fix.
New York City records the same amount of homicides as the entire nation of Japan annually. Japan's population is 120 million. It's a sad comparison.
The truth is even the safest American city is far more dangerous than anywhere than Japan. Far more.
Greysholic do you know why Japan puts attempted murder under murder by their law? I was looking for crime statistics and found 993 murders happened in Japan in 2015 but only 314 people were actually killed. Areas like Tokyo had only 11 murders in the entire prefecture in 2014 but 127 murders including attempts in 2014.
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Greysholic do you know why Japan puts attempted murder under murder by their law? I was looking for crime statistics and found 993 murders happened in Japan in 2015 but only 314 people were actually killed. Areas like Tokyo had only 11 murders in the entire prefecture in 2014 but 127 murders including attempts in 2014.
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Violent offences in police recorded data are referred to as “violence against the person” and include homicide, violence with injury and violence without injury. There were just under 1 million (992,424) violence against the person offences recorded by the police in the year ending March 2016.
Of these, 57% were classified as violence without injury (equivalent to 560,838 offences) and 43% were classified as violence with injury (431,012 offences), similar to the breakdown shown by the CSEW.
Police recording of a crime is based on the element of intent rather than outcome. Therefore incidents classified as violence with injury will include crimes based on the deliberate attempt of the perpetrator to cause serious bodily harm, regardless of whether any injury was sustained by the victim.
Over half of violence without injury offences (61%) recorded by the police in the year ending March 2016 were classified as assaults without injury (343,212 offences), with the remainder covering a range of offences, including harassment, and threats to kill.
The majority of violence with injury offences (93%) were classified as assaults with injury (402,316 offences).
Assaults with intent to cause serious harm accounted for a further 5% of violence with injury offences (23,029 offences).
There were 574 homicides recorded, which accounted for 0.1% of the total violence against the person offences. This differs slightly from the figure reported in the ‘Homicide’ chapter of this release (571), which uses more accurate data on homicide from the Home Office Homicide Index. Please see the ‘Homicide’ chapter for more information.
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According to the year ending March 2016 Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW), there were 1.3 million incidents of violence experienced by adults in the previous 12 months in England and Wales.
Violence without injury (where the victim is punched, kicked, pushed or jostled with no resulting injury) accounted for just over half (55%) of all CSEW violent incidents.
Violence with injury is broken down into 2 types:
wounding (where the incident results in severe or more serious injury2) – this accounted for 24% of all violent incidents
assault with minor injury (where the victim is punched, kicked, pushed or jostled with resulting minor injury, such as scratches or bruises) – this accounted for 21% of violent incidents (Figure 1.1)
It's question of personal taste, in terms of diversity, green space and architecture I prefer both London and NYC over Tokyo, although Tokyo is a great city.
I certainly would not agree that Tokyo is a nicer place to live, and as for affordable housing London is currently investing in a lot of affordable housing, whilst all new housing schemes much include affordable housing. The current Mayor has stated that he wants 65% of new housing to be affordable, and new schemes are now going ahead, whilst at the same time many council (projects) type estates have been demolished and replaced by better quality new housing.
Rent in London is awful relative to wages. The income in Tokyo is pretty much comparable to London, but the rent is half the amount. The underground is really expensive in London as well.
Dining out in Tokyo is also far more affordable than almost anywhere in Europe and America. It's not even close. You can get a decent meal in Tokyo with like $8 - 10, in London that would get you like some other customer's leftovers.
The only thing substantially more expensive in Tokyo is the groceries, which is a dead zone for all East Asian countries. Supermarkets are far more expensive here than pretty much anywhere in Europe or America. Still, all things considered, it is far easier to live modestly in Tokyo than in either London or New York. There's a reason why you barely see any homeless people on the streets in Japan.
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Whilst crime in London is relatively low for a city of 8.8 million, with around 120 murders in the last 12 months and over half of recorded violent crime resulting in no injury whatsoever, and the vast majority of the rest of violent crime being of a very minor nature. It also should be noted that a substantial number of murders are as a result of domestic violence.
London is not dangerous, but compares to Tokyo, or any big city in developed Asia, it is.
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Rent in London is awful relative to wages. The income in Tokyo is pretty much comparable to London, but the rent is half the amount.
Here's the Business Insiders list of the most expensive cities to rent, and whilst London may be more expensive it is not double the amount as you suggest.
The underground is really expensive in London as well.
In terms of Transport for London (TfL) it's non-profit making, for every pound TfL receive, 68% is spent on the everyday running costs of the network and 32% on improving it for the future, which is why you have major improvements such as Crossrail and Thameslink currently nearing completion with numerous other projects planned.
Dining out in Tokyo is also far more affordable than almost anywhere in Europe and America. It's not even close. You can get a decent meal in Tokyo with like $8 - 10, in London that would get you like some other customer's leftovers.
There are plenty of affordable places to eat in London, it's not as if every restaurant is exclusive and upmarket, there are plenty of small family run restaurants and also casual dining chain restaurants.
London is not dangerous, but compares to Tokyo, or any big city in developed Asia, it is.
It depends how you define Asia, whether you include the continent or just the Far East and even in the Far East there are plenty of fairly dangerous places including areas fighting civil wars. In terms of London for a city of it's size it's remarkable safe.
Here's the Business Insiders list of the most expensive cities to rent, and whilst London may be more expensive it is not double the amount as you suggest.
In terms of Transport for London (TfL) it's non-profit making, for every pound TfL receive, 68% is spent on the everyday running costs of the network and 32% on improving it for the future, which is why you have major improvements such as Crossrail and Thameslink currently nearing completion with numerous other projects planned.
I know, but it's still far more expensive than Tokyo's public transport. A monthly pass for Tokyo metro (all lines) is 173,000 Yen, which translates to 112 GBP, whereas a monthly pass for London tube (all zones) is 340,70 GBP. It's 3 times as expensive and Tokyo's average net wage is pretty much the same as London's.
There are plenty of affordable places to eat in London, it's not as if every restaurant is exclusive and upmarket, there are plenty of small family run restaurants and also casual dining chain restaurants.
Yes, there are affordable eateries everywhere, but the average restaurant prices for a simple meal in London is like 15 GBP, whereas in Tokyo it's like 7-8.
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The reason being that Japan has a declining population coupled with a lack of immigration. Tokyo and Japan have demographic problems ahead.
Maybe, but it could also be that their housing situation is better.
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It depends how you define Asia, whether you include the continent or just the Far East and even in the Far East there are plenty of fairly dangerous places including areas fighting civil wars. In terms of London for a city of it's size it's remarkable safe.
New York City records the same amount of homicides as the entire nation of Japan annually. Japan's population is 120 million. It's a sad comparison.
The truth is even the safest American city is far more dangerous than anywhere than Japan. Far more.
Hence why I would move back to Tokyo if I could.
Meanwhile, the most dangerous cities in the United States (St. Louis and Baltimore) have comparable rates to cities in third world countries, and are rankable among the most dangerous cities in the world. As President Trump would say, "Sad."
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