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Old 11-04-2015, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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Today it makes more sense to use the Human Development classification of the United Nations: Very high human development, High human development, Medium human development and Low human development.

 
Old 11-04-2015, 01:07 PM
 
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No, these are "developing" nations. Same category as Turkey, Mexico, Russia, Brazil, China, Thailand, South Africa, Argentina and the like. Middle-of-the-road countries. Not rich and not poor.
 
Old 11-05-2015, 07:10 AM
 
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I think Brazilians have to be ashamed to say that We are less third world than others. Oh my God.

If with foreigner spoke who in favelas they don’t are so poor how appear, if they have all the basics goods and water on tap, eletricy and others State services… It means favelas should not exist in Brazil. It means favelas just exist because we don’t have special in the past any **** urban planning for low-income people districts.

Favelas in really guetto countries we may understand, but Brazil is a industrialized country with GPD percapita of USD 15.000, so here there are a lot of jobs because that even people in the slums get job, so if it was a serious country we should not have favelas. Ok? If people have work simple mortgage available prevent favelas.


So yes Ukraine is superior than us because with so much less money than us they got more quality of life to their poorest people.


Our problem is most part of people don’t vote well. Brazil is stopped now because a political war. We don’t have civil war like Ukraine but we always have political war that is the same or worse for harm the country.

Brazil have all condition for become in one of the most developed countries in the earth the majority of third world countries Don’t !!

First of all we have national industries in all areas so if we don’t have **** State disturbing it would grow up naturally enriching the country. Just examples Brazil is the third air plane producer in the earth, Brazilians companies is very competitive in all the world, like examples Burguer king and bwdwiser are controlled by Brazilian companies.

Our Agriculture is very developed without any subsidies is the second producer in the world close the United States.

Natural resources is not necessary speak about, people who are able to make anything too, so if we are not developed country is because it is a **** FUBAR country!! In the 8 years of Lula government when political parties agreed not fight this country grew up so that was a World star.
 
Old 11-05-2015, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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Yeah, EVANGELISTTI, but we have mediocre politicians (with a few exceptions) in both left-wing and right-wing parties, and one of the most corrupt and inefficient Judiciaries in the world...

With this Judiciary that we have, Brazil is not going anywhere. Our judges and prosecutors are clowns. It's the only explanation for a man like Aecio Neves not be in jail.

And our mainstream media is a joke too.
 
Old 11-06-2015, 03:49 PM
 
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No, these are "developing" nations. Same category as Turkey, Mexico, Russia, Brazil, China, Thailand, South Africa, Argentina and the like. Middle-of-the-road countries. Not rich and not poor.

Of course not. You are wrong as usual.
Russia has a very different background comparably to the mentioned above countries, even for a fact that it was never anyone's colony, ( as much as Europe would have loved to suffocate it economically.)
So the country that hasn't been anyone's colony ( and in fact had colonies of its own) simply can't be put in the same context as the ones you've mentioned here.
 
Old 11-07-2015, 06:47 AM
 
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Of course not. You are wrong as usual.
Given essentially 100% of your posts are Putin propaganda, I am honored you disagree with me. If my worldview aligned with yours, I would have very big problems.
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Russia has a very different background comparably to the mentioned above countries, even for a fact that it was never anyone's colony, ( as much as Europe would have loved to suffocate it economically.)
None of this is true, and none of this has anything to do with economic development in the current day.

Whether or not a country was a colony of another 500 years ago has zero to do with whether or not it is rich or poor today. The U.S. was a colony for centuries, some poor countries were never colonies, it doesn't mean that the U.S. (or Canada or Australia) aren't first world or that Liberia or Ethiopia or Bhutan or Nepal or Tonga are developed countries.
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So the country that hasn't been anyone's colony ( and in fact had colonies of its own) simply can't be put in the same context as the ones you've mentioned here.
Why not, exactly? What does a random past historical fact have to do with current economic development? It has as much to do with current wealth as whether or not a country eats pelmeni or not, (which is to say, none). A country can be colonized for centuries and rich, or never colonized and poor (obviously).
 
Old 11-07-2015, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Of course not. You are wrong as usual.
Russia has a very different background comparably to the mentioned above countries, even for a fact that it was never anyone's colony, ( as much as Europe would have loved to suffocate it economically.)
So the country that hasn't been anyone's colony ( and in fact had colonies of its own) simply can't be put in the same context as the ones you've mentioned here.
Well Thailand and China were never anyone's colony either. Thailand was famously independent when all of its neighbors were under either British or French control, even during WWII, Thailand was more like Finland, instead of being completely occupied, Thailand sided with Japan; China was huge as **** so no one really 100% annexed it...though its position was about as pathetic as any colony then.

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Old 11-07-2015, 07:18 AM
 
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Correct. Thailand and China were also never colonies. I don't see why such historical facts are somehow related to a country's current economic and social development.
 
Old 11-07-2015, 07:22 AM
 
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The US is pretty even in income and education level compared with large developing countries like Russia, China, India, Brazil and Mexico.

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I agree.
There are parts of the US that are pretty "third world" to me - parts of Appalachia and the Ozarks come to mind.

There was a village in Ukraine where I encountered outhouses. I am quite sure we still have them some places in the US as well.

Ukraine - not third world.
 
Old 11-07-2015, 07:34 AM
 
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The US is pretty even in income and education level compared with large developing countries like Russia, China, India, Brazil and Mexico.
Um, no.

The U.S. has the highest median incomes of any major country on earth. Mean incomes are even higher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income

And the U.S. has one of the highest levels of education of any country on earth.
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