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I think you mean San Diego has closer integration with a much larger domestic market. The US itself is a huge market (since it's a huge population that also has a lot of spending power). A lot of cities in developed countries elsewhere must, by dint of being in a smaller country, be more international to compete though those international borders are often pretty close by.
The University of Manchester generally does better in international rankings than UC San Diego or at least about on par.
The idea that the San Diego Comic Con is world famous is pretty silly. It's barely nationally famous since it's still pretty niche.
I do think San Diego is "more important" globally than Manchester at the moment, but it's not much of a margin.
It would strongly depend on how California/US relations worked out. California would definitely be in the weaker position so the US can push things far further towards its benefits. Plus, you'd have to wonder how acrimonious this breakup would have had to have been and what the state of affairs for both entities needed to be to precipitate that. It pretty much would've meant things were already pretty screwed at that point.
That's the dooms day version. Truth is, California is something like 12% of the US GDP so it would be in the interest of both to maintain a good relationship. The US gets a lot of it's produce and foods derived from that produce from California as there are about a dozen crops of which 80% or more depending on the crop are grown in California.
The three most common global rankings are from ARWU, QS, and THE.
AWRU:
#14 University of California, San Diego
#35 University of Manchester
QS:
#40 University of California, San Diego
#29 University of Manchester
THE:
#41 University of California, San Diego
#55 University of Manchester
Pretty close overall, so about on par.
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Originally Posted by Gentoo
That's the dooms day version. Truth is, California is something like 12% of the US GDP so it would be in the interest of both to maintain a good relationship. The US gets a lot of it's produce and foods derived from that produce from California as there are about a dozen crops of which 80% or more depending on the crop are grown in California.
How would a non-doomsday situation work out? What waters will California be able to negotiate with the rest of the US since the vast majority of its water is inflow from there? What cut rate will California have to give to the US if it's no longer part of the domestic market and cheap and ready produce is available with other trade partners? What incentive do corporations have to stay in the much smaller domestic market of California rather than relocate to the legal jurisdictions of where the vast majority of the market it served is? This scenario is pretty ridiculous. The leverage is very obviously on the side of the rest of the US. Sure, this is a hypothetical exercise, but it's not one that's going to be particularly great for California and it's really absurd to think otherwise.
The three most common global rankings are from ARWU, QS, and THE.
AWRU:
#14 University of California, San Diego
#35 University of Manchester
QS:
#40 University of California, San Diego
#29 University of Manchester
THE:
#41 University of California, San Diego
#55 University of Manchester
Pretty close overall, so about on par.
How would a non-doomsday situation work out? What waters will California be able to negotiate with the rest of the US since the vast majority of its water is inflow from there? What cut rate will California have to give to the US if it's no longer part of the domestic market and cheap and ready produce is available with other trade partners? What incentive do corporations have to stay in the much smaller domestic market of California rather than relocate to the legal jurisdictions of where the vast majority of the market it served is? This scenario is pretty ridiculous. The leverage is very obviously on the side of the rest of the US. Sure, this is a hypothetical exercise, but it's not one that's going to be particularly great for California and it's really absurd to think otherwise.
This scenario is pretty ridiculous. The leverage is very obviously on the side of the rest of the US. Sure, this is a hypothetical exercise, but it's not one that's going to be particularly great for California and it's really absurd to think otherwise.
Since the civil war, independence movements in the USA have never been strong.Hawaii was once independent, as was Texas and Utah. But California has no history of independence, not does it make much sense for them to operate independently of USA.
The bottom line is that Puerto Ricans don't even vote for independence. What makes you think that any mainland state would ever vote for independence?
In 9 years California should have a population between 44 million and 48 million people and may surpass the GDP of not only UK but Germany as well.
1 United States $18,561,930
2 China $11,391,619
3 Japan $4,730,300
4 Germany $3,494,900
5 United Kingdom $2,649,890
6 France $2,488,280
7 India $2,250,990
8 Italy $1,852,500
9 Brazil $1,769,600
10 Canada $1,532,340
Since the civil war, independence movements in the USA have never been strong.Hawaii was once independent, as was Texas and Utah. But California has no history of independence, not does it make much sense for them to operate independently of USA.
The bottom line is that Puerto Ricans don't even vote for independence. What makes you think that any mainland state would ever vote for independence?
In 9 years California should have a population between 44 million and 48 million people and may surpass the GDP of not only UK but Germany as well.
1 United States $18,561,930
2 China $11,391,619
3 Japan $4,730,300
4 Germany $3,494,900
5 United Kingdom $2,649,890
6 France $2,488,280
7 India $2,250,990
8 Italy $1,852,500
9 Brazil $1,769,600
10 Canada $1,532,340
Oh, I don't think California will do so--there's no traction behind it and it'd be economically terrible for people in California and the US. I'm saying that people who make that hypothetical and argue that it'll work out are being insensible.
We're talking metro areas obviously, not city limits. Both the city proper and metro are huge research and innovation hubs.
OK, this is good to clarify. Fair enough. I'm not familiar enough with greater Manchester to know if it's comparable in the number of cities/towns and the square mileage to the Bay Area.
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Obviously Stanford. Yes, one could argue Stanford is the most prestigious university on earth. At absolute worst, it's what? Top four or five?
Well, let's see: Yale, Harvard, Oxford = top three, not necessarily in that order. What's next, Cambridge? Or the Sorbonne? Then after that, possibly MIT, then Stanford, Princeton, and I don't know if UC Berkeley would rank in there. I think there might be several tying for 6th or 7th place. Just thinking out loud.
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