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That's not considered multi-ethnic in North Africa perhaps from an American-centric perspective yes but that's a typical phenotype among some groups of North Africa and they only claim heritage along the direct paternal line they're not interested in knowing about a concubine in their ancestry of sub-Saharan African origin that lived about 1,000 years ago.
That link is from wikipedia man. Research from peer reviewed academic sources OR from professors directly. Look at the time from those sources in the wikipedia article were published. Some of them are from the 1800s and others over a decade old. Academic research is ever evolving as new information and research methods become available. Problem with Wikipedia is any know nothing can post something there using made up, or in this case, out dated information. I have attached a peer review article from 2004. Read the first paragraph under the title "The Origins of Afroasiatic"
I apologize for both bumping this thread and for this very late reply. But a bit in link with Berber peoples, I saw that video who talk of similarities between Semetic (part of the Afro-Asiatic language family like the Berbers languages) and Celtic languages.
Finally someone with a brain, thank you.
I am half European and half Amazigh ie. "Berber'' (which is a derogatory term). My father's tribe doesn't have Black facial features, but their skin color is closer to that of the people of Djibouti. Saying that ''Berbers'' are a mix of Europeans and Arabs is incredibly stupid.
Amazigh people are African, they have their own culture, language, and traditions that are completely different from Europeans and Arabs. They are NOT ''Caucasoid Arabs''. And Islam was, by the way, spread in North Africa not only by the invading Arabs but also by a large Amazigh tribe called the Zenata. Arabs actually did not mix that much with Berbers, their culture was mostly spread by islamized Amazigh tribes.
And no, while the people living in the city tend to refer to themselves as ''Arab'', in the countryside, most people refer to themselves as ''Berber'', not Arab. Many regions of Morocco and Algeria are kept in poverty and suffer severe discrimination by an Arabized government that sees the Amazigh tribes living there as primitive savages. These Amazigh tribes are very proud of their heritage and do not bow down to an oppressive government. Being called ''Arab'' there is actually an insult to these people, so please stop that bull****.
Regarding skin color, Amazigh people were most likely originally black, and repeated invasions by people of white or brown skin complexions most likely created the current result we see now. That does not mean that they are not ''real'' natives, just like you cannot say that American Natives, who are mostly mixed nowadays, aren't native either.
The most recent human fossil discovered is 300 000 years old and was discovered in Morocco. So no, Amazigh people likely did not come from West Asia 10 000 years ago, they did not come from the Middle East 8000 years ago or ~1500 years ago, and they did not come from European slaves in 700 AD either. However these populations may have mixed with the natives of North Africa to some extent.
Africa is a continent of multiple ethnic groups and skin tones, and there is no such thing as the ''Caucasoid Arabs of the North'' and the ''Black Africa''.
There is only African people, who were originally most likely Black skinned, and some of these ethnic groups happened to mix more than others, with ethnic groups from Europe and Asia, either willingly or by getting raped and brutalized.
Finally someone with a brain, thank you.
I am half European and half Amazigh ie. "Berber'' (which is a derogatory term). My father's tribe doesn't have Black facial features, but their skin color is closer to that of the people of Djibouti. Saying that ''Berbers'' are a mix of Europeans and Arabs is incredibly stupid.
Amazigh people are African, they have their own culture, language, and traditions that are completely different from Europeans and Arabs. They are NOT ''Caucasoid Arabs''. And Islam was, by the way, spread in North Africa not only by the invading Arabs but also by a large Amazigh tribe called the Zenata. Arabs actually did not mix that much with Berbers, their culture was mostly spread by islamized Amazigh tribes.
And no, while the people living in the city tend to refer to themselves as ''Arab'', in the countryside, most people refer to themselves as ''Berber'', not Arab. Many regions of Morocco and Algeria are kept in poverty and suffer severe discrimination by an Arabized government that sees the Amazigh tribes living there as primitive savages. These Amazigh tribes are very proud of their heritage and do not bow down to an oppressive government. Being called ''Arab'' there is actually an insult to these people, so please stop that bull****.
Regarding skin color, Amazigh people were most likely originally black, and repeated invasions by people of white or brown skin complexions most likely created the current result we see now. That does not mean that they are not ''real'' natives, just like you cannot say that American Natives, who are mostly mixed nowadays, aren't native either.
The most recent human fossil discovered is 300 000 years old and was discovered in Morocco. So no, Amazigh people likely did not come from West Asia 10 000 years ago, they did not come from the Middle East 8000 years ago or ~1500 years ago, and they did not come from European slaves in 700 AD either. However these populations may have mixed with the natives of North Africa to some extent.
Africa is a continent of multiple ethnic groups and skin tones, and there is no such thing as the ''Caucasoid Arabs of the North'' and the ''Black Africa''.
There is only African people, who were originally most likely Black skinned, and some of these ethnic groups happened to mix more than others, with ethnic groups from Europe and Asia, either willingly or by getting raped and brutalized.
It is impossible to claim that Imazighen are NOT a mixture of people. If you look at Ydna, which is passed down from father to son ad infinitum Imazighen are a mixture of YDNA which shows they do not all share the same origin. Some are J1, some are e1b, some are R1b, some are even A. J1 and r1b are supposedly not African in origin. Specifically J1 is from the Middle East and there are conflicting theories on R1b but all those theories for the most part say it came from outside of Africa. So it definitely isn’t “incredibly stupid” to say Imazighen are a mixture of people. Genetically this is a fact. We know Romans, Phoenicians, Greeks, Arabs, Turks, and European slaves all found their way into North Africa at one point or another in human history. It isn’t far fetched to think some of these groups settled down and mixed in to the local populations. Also, all one has to do is go on YouTube and look at all the DNA reveal videos submitted by people who identify as Amazigh. North Africa, Arab, African (so called sub-Saharan) and European generally all show up in the DNA results.
As to Imazighen skin color it varies. Some are really white looking like you find in the high atlas among some Rifi people or like the Kabyle in Algeria. Some are dark with so called “black” features like in Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Mali and Niger. to many Imazighen tribes that have “black features” and “black” skin to name. Like how we see among some Kel Tamashiq and other Imazighen tribes.
I have gotten into studying DNA on an amateur level. I no longer believe in “ethnic” groups per say as some genetically homogenous group of people all coming from the same area and sharing a common origin. People move around, settle down, admix and form new groups or meld into existing groups all the time. Even Arabs For example aren’t all one people either. This is a modern fallacy
Thought I would share this genetic research document on North Africa. It shows that today's North African population is not indigenous, but instead made up of a number of migrations into the area. There is another genetic study that shows the oldest remains in North Africa, who were black in color, are NOT related to current day populations. I will share if I come across it
According to the recent DNA study Berbers are Caucasoid Arabs, even though they have Sub-Saharan; Black African ancestry. They possess a genetic profile that is intermediate between Europeans and Sub-Saharan Africans and have a close genetic relationship with Mediterranean Europeans but also possess some characteristics of Sub-Saharan Africans.
So, technically they are a mixture of Xanthochroi (White European) and Melanochroi (Mediterranean).
Berbers represent 80% of the population in Morocco and Algeria, more than 60% in Tunisia and Libya and 2% in Egypt, making up more than 50 million people. In addition there are about 4 million Berbers living in Europe, primarily in France.
You couldn’t be more wrong even if you tried what the hell was that? There is evidence that Berbers descend from Canaan (Son of Ham son of Noah) as they are a MIDDLE-EASTERN people in origin. They are both African and Asian and have mixed a lot with European as well as Eastern Europeans and Subsaharian Africans through conquest, interacial marriage and slavery.
Claiming that they’re "kinda a mix between europeans and black africans" is a disgusting and reductive claim, please learn to keep it shut when you’re not sure. A quick research about North-Africans haplogroup belonging will make you look like a fool.
Finally someone with a brain, thank you.
I am half European and half Amazigh ie. "Berber'' (which is a derogatory term). My father's tribe doesn't have Black facial features, but their skin color is closer to that of the people of Djibouti. Saying that ''Berbers'' are a mix of Europeans and Arabs is incredibly stupid.
Amazigh people are African, they have their own culture, language, and traditions that are completely different from Europeans and Arabs. They are NOT ''Caucasoid Arabs''. And Islam was, by the way, spread in North Africa not only by the invading Arabs but also by a large Amazigh tribe called the Zenata. Arabs actually did not mix that much with Berbers, their culture was mostly spread by islamized Amazigh tribes.
And no, while the people living in the city tend to refer to themselves as ''Arab'', in the countryside, most people refer to themselves as ''Berber'', not Arab. Many regions of Morocco and Algeria are kept in poverty and suffer severe discrimination by an Arabized government that sees the Amazigh tribes living there as primitive savages. These Amazigh tribes are very proud of their heritage and do not bow down to an oppressive government. Being called ''Arab'' there is actually an insult to these people, so please stop that bull****.
Regarding skin color, Amazigh people were most likely originally black, and repeated invasions by people of white or brown skin complexions most likely created the current result we see now. That does not mean that they are not ''real'' natives, just like you cannot say that American Natives, who are mostly mixed nowadays, aren't native either.
The most recent human fossil discovered is 300 000 years old and was discovered in Morocco. So no, Amazigh people likely did not come from West Asia 10 000 years ago, they did not come from the Middle East 8000 years ago or ~1500 years ago, and they did not come from European slaves in 700 AD either. However these populations may have mixed with the natives of North Africa to some extent.
Africa is a continent of multiple ethnic groups and skin tones, and there is no such thing as the ''Caucasoid Arabs of the North'' and the ''Black Africa''.
There is only African people, who were originally most likely Black skinned, and some of these ethnic groups happened to mix more than others, with ethnic groups from Europe and Asia, either willingly or by getting raped and brutalized.
NO, they were not black. That’s fiction. The earliest signs indicate that they lived in the area since 8,000-10,000 before Christ. & Your statement about their skin color makes absolutely no sense. They were whitened by people that were browner than them (Asians)? They’re Asians in origin (Middle East) but are now white due to their close relationship with many european empires as well as a fresher mediteranean climate.
Berbers are NOT arabs, Berbers are NOT semetic, Berbers are NOT black.
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But a bit in link with Berber peoples, I saw that video who talk of similarities between Semetic (part of the Afro-Asiatic language family like the Berbers languages) and Celtic languages. 
Totally WRONG elnina. Ridiculous comment.
