Fukushima - will there be a problem Alaska? (floor, electric bill)

[jdhpa]

Your sources at enenews are not reliable:

Debunking the Fukushima Spent Fuel Fable - Atomic Insights

It reminds me of this:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

[MattieJensen]

Then listen the program on Tuesday and voice your learned opinion.

[richelles]

Regarding spent fuel. There are a few truths which the naysayers can't downplay except for the fact they refuse to use them for what they are worth. One is time is your friend when it comes to nuclear radiation. In order for there to be radiation there must be some kind of nuclear reaction. The basic physics of that nuclear reaction is an element that can undergo a nuclear reaction is by definition going to a lower and more stable level by undergoing the nuclear reaction. So once that radiation has been released and been dissipated by time and distance there is nothing further to be done since the individual element involved has reached a lower stable level. If one follows the decay chain to lead which all of the naysayers will have to agree is a stable element you start with a reactive element which undergoes decay; releases some radiation which quickly reaches a level where it isn't measurable; is converted to a lower order element and is no longer capable of undergoing that reaction again. The reason to put spent fuel into the spent fuel pool is to allow it to stay cool (being it is submerged in a cooling liquid known as water), for the short lived active elements to undergo reactions to a stable element, and to keep people away from the fuel bundles.

Now fuel bundles are constructed from elements that are not radioactive elements, last a long time in their normal state, and aren't harmed by radiation. Think about a fact the spent fuel bundle has been in a reactor exposed to enormous amounts of radiation and has survived that assault. Most of the active elements contained in the fuel bundle have been reduced to something less active and in some cases to nonreactive elements which can then be called shielding such as lead or other heavy elements, which is the reason they are called spent fuel. Now any one with any small amount of nuclear physics knowledge knows no one would willingly stand next to a spent fuel bundle because if you took a fresh spent fuel bundle and stood it up on the goal line on a football field and started walking toward it from the opposite goal line you probably wouldn't reach the fifty yard line alive because of the radiation being emitted. But put in under forty feet of water (Shielding) and the level of radiation is close to nil.

The water in which it is sitting for an extended period of time gets warm but is cooled as the heat dissipates. The fuel bundles don't rot, rust, decay, or react and the radioactive leftovers are contained safely inside a metal barrier through which they can't move. All of this has been proved over time and I have stood on the bridge over a spent fuel pool forty some feet above the hundreds of bundles of spent fuel and I'm still here typing this some thirty years since my last visit to a nuclear plant. Calm down people and quit listening to the clowns who don't know what they are talking about.

[MattieJensen]

In the old days (50's-60's) they put the waste water in 55gal drums and buried them on site or worse yet, put them into onsite wells, where over time, they leached into the water tables. Such was done at Savannah River and Oak Ridge. Savannah River drains into the Atlantic and Oak Ridge into the Tennessee River.

If you aren't concerned about your health, we won't worry about you in the future.

[MattieJensen]

From RSOE EDIS - Emergency and Disaster Information Service this past week:

"Highly radioactive water was detected inside the No. 3 reactor building at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant, Tepco said. It is believed that the water may have leaked from within the reactor. The water was found to have high levels of radioactive cesium and cobalt, but Tepco claimed none of the water has leaked out of the building itself. A report in December suggested it would take five years to put an end to radioactive water leaks in and around the plant."

[pch1013]

Originally Posted by MattieJensen

From RSOE EDIS - Emergency and Disaster Information Service this past week:

"Highly radioactive water was detected inside the No. 3 reactor building at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant, Tepco said. It is believed that the water may have leaked from within the reactor. The water was found to have high levels of radioactive cesium and cobalt, but Tepco claimed none of the water has leaked out of the building itself. A report in December suggested it would take five years to put an end to radioactive water leaks in and around the plant."

Do you somehow believe that posting the exact same thing 7 times all over the forum will somehow make it "stick"?

[starlite9]

Originally Posted by pch1013

Do you somehow believe that posting the exact same thing 7 times all over the forum will somehow make it "stick"?

I guess he believes in the saying, "If you repeat a lie enough times, people start to believe it as a fact".

Did I mention earlier that the "Sky is falling!"?

[richelles]

I got a new Chicken Little to complain about!!!!!!!!!!

The sky is falling!

[MattieJensen]

Originally Posted by starlite9

I guess he believes in the saying, "If you repeat a lie enough times, people start to believe it as a fact".

I'm surprised you could read it that many times. Well, when the sh*t hits the fan - you can just say I was warned. In the meantime, have a good life.

[pch1013]

Originally Posted by MattieJensen

I'm surprised you could read it that many times. Well, when the sh*t hits the fan - you can just say I was warned. In the meantime, have a good life.

I'll bet you $10,000 that 10 years from now, or 5 or 20 or whatever number you care to name, the West Coast -- including Alaska and Hawaii -- will still be happily thriving, populated, and uncontaminated by trans-Pacific radiation.

Care to put your money where your paranoia is?