Alaskan Politics (statewide and nationwide) (Metlakatla: jail, target, Republicans)

[starlite9]

Originally Posted by notreesininceland

Au contraire. Obama has the potential to be a great president.

Why? Is he planning of getting a lobotomy? That would certainly help his chances of being "Great".... Nothing would get done and that isn't all bad...

[swbtoo]

Originally Posted by Geechie North

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If the "he" is Obama, then obviously we don't know what his term will be like. All we know is that he is living in reality compared to Mr. McCain or Mrs. Palin. And that of the two he is far and away the superior choice.

Pardon me - Slight correction: Obama is living in HOPE, not reality, and has sold you all a bill of goods, with price tag to follow.

[swbtoo]

Originally Posted by Geechie North

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FYI, I worked with one "small business" (as defined by DOD) that employed 1,000 people and whose owners were multi-millionaires back in the 70's. Those guys have been making out like bandits over the past few decades, and it's now time to make them pay their fair share.

That's right. these guys have been making out like bandits and it's time to punish them for their successes. They don't need to reinvest in the business, in advertising and marketing, new equipment, expansion. They're making plenty. Let them finally pay their faire share. It's about time.

FYI, I worked with one "small business" that employed 120 people, and revenues were in the $1.2 million range. They weren't exactly swimming in money. I know as I was in the financial end of it. They were good to their employees and had generous benefits in spite of conitnuous financial constraints. But there wasn't anything extra for giveaways to the government, and when times got tough they had to lay off.

You will see a flood of layoffs as the Democrats get underway with their proposed spending plan.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by notreesininceland

Of course, it is my opinion The latter part of your second sentence above makes no sense but let me not quibble over words. I said "potential." We will have to wait and see. A vote is based on one's own assessment of a candidate but whether that promise will come to fruition is not something one can assert a priori.

I think it is very easy to figure out what I meant::: you said "Obama could be a great Pres, I said, that is opinion, not fact" show me one fact that shows he will be a great President: what can you not understand about the comment???

Nita

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Geechie North

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Wall Street Journal always had a very elitist slant. Now it's part of Rupie's empire and is just about as much fiction as Fox Noise.

Remember Akres v Fox News?

That's why the rest of the world divides news into the objective sources and the non-objective ones- like the corporate US media.

And I simply asked, where in the Wall Street Journal was this information and who was the person who is supporting Obama? I am sure there are more than a couple, I simply do not pay any attention to anything that is written in the Huffington Post. One of our favorite papers in the Wall Street Journal. It is the Huffington crap I am not buying.

Nita

[Barkingowl]

Originally Posted by nmnita

I think it is very easy to figure out what I meant::: you said "Obama could be a great Pres, I said, that is opinion, not fact" show me one fact that shows he will be a great President: what can you not understand about the comment???

Nita

I've been wondering why people think, that based on his past accomplishments, that he was fit to run for office in the first place?

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by JavaPhil

The potential is in both candidates. I dislike McCain for dumping his 1st wife, and for picking a VP candidate that has a limited understanding of anything outside of her personal bailiwick. I am lessed than impressed with Obama's experience outside of the legislative offices he has held. Neither candidate has either my full support or my rejection.

To tell the truth, I lean toward Obama more than McCain, but that scale is hasn't got a lot of weight on the left hand side. I am almost in favor of writing in "None of the above" to demonstrate my displeasure with the whole process at this point. I'd have to say I think the 2-party system is irreparably broken, as I am more a moderate conservative centrist than a full-fledged Republican. The Republican Party in the past 15 years has gotten much more conservative, as evidenced by it's stand on stem cell research and abortion. The Christian right is being represented by Palin, but where is MY representation? Obama seems to be a little more centrist, but has displayed some alarming liberal tendencies, tending toward the radical left. I want 1 more liberal in the Supreme Court for a better balance. I don't think we need a totalitarian right-wing court. IMO the constitution needs to be translated by a court that has elements of both left and right, to keep us on an even keel, as it were.

Of course, as you all know, my opinions are my own only, and I am always willing to listen to reasoned and reasonable discourse.

Negative ads, like negative rants, tend to put my back up. And like any cornered animal, I will defend my right to state what I feel and what my opinions are. I have never, not once on this forum, put anyone down, and will always defend a person's right to say what they please in an open forum. But their rights end at the tip of my nose. This is a democracy. Life and lifestyles should be lived as one pleases, as long as it harms no one else. I may not have picked their lifestyle as my own, I may think that their lifestyle is harmful to themselves, but it is THEIR life.

I've made enough mistakes in my life that pointing out other's flaws is an exercise in finding out my own. I am overly strict with my kids, I am a little sef-righteous, and I tend to think a lot of my own intelligence. I don't want to suffer fools gladly, and my patience with them is limited. But if I think some one is a fool, I can always find some one else to talk to without resorting to hurting someone's feelings.

Politics is a matter of opinion in a campaign season, because politicians tend to want the office at all costs, and the truth becomes a casualty of war. Campaign rhetoric and campaign promises are written in sand to be washed away on the tide of inauguration day. Personally, I'll believe it when I see it.

I think many of us agree pretty much with what you are saying. For me, I did vote for McCain, but I wasn't smiling about it. AS for voting for none of the above, I think it would be a great way to show our dissatisfaction, but think of the costs to the tax payers to go through the process all over again?

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Classic Satch

After recovering from my bout of laughter, I have but one word to describe said excursion into "progressive" idiocy: SOCIALISM.

You know what Geechie? My father-in-law makes over $400,000/yr. He also works his 8-5 at the office, comes home, eats dinner, and then works in his home-office until 11:00-12:00 each night. Not to count the untold hours he puts in on weekends. So, by your reckoning, he should be penalized for his education and work ethic by the Democrats taking his hard-earned money and handing it over to some lazy ne'er-do-well? Huh?

F-you.

I think many do not realize how hard some work for thier money. My daughter is a perfect example: yes, she is in a very high income level. But let me tell you a little about her schedule just last week: She flew to Hong Kong last Sunday, arriving late Monday night: Tues and Wed she had meetings, left on Wed night, spent the night in Tokyo, flew from Tokyo to L.A. on Thursday and had a quick meeting in L.A. then flew back to Dallas on Friday. She and hubby drove up here for the weekend cause she had today off. that was fine except, even though it was her day off she had to make 2 confenence calls this morning, one to Swedan and one to London. Now she is headed back to Dallas for a meeting tonight. And you guys expect her to share her wealth (she isn't really wealthy though) with those who do not work or those who are considered lower to middle income. Of course many do not realize how much she and others in her income level give to charities as well.

You know, I, personally might be financually better off if Obama wins, as we are certainly middle class, but I also know how hard some people do work for their money...

Nita

[Moose Whisperer]

Originally Posted by nmnita

I think many of us agree pretty much with what you are saying. For me, I did vote for McCain, but I wasn't smiling about it. AS for voting for none of the above, I think it would be a great way to show our dissatisfaction, but think of the costs to the tax payers to go through the process all over again?

Barring something catastophic like a direct asteroid impact, Alaska's 3 electoral votes are going to McCain - period. So I'll be voting Libetarian so I can sleep well at night.

[Barkingowl]

Originally Posted by Moose Whisperer

Barring something catastophic like a direct asteroid impact, Alaska's 3 electoral votes are going to McCain - period. So I'll be voting Libetarian so I can sleep well at night.

Same here in NC.