Moral obligations for atheists (statistic, Christ, atheist, bible)
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Phil is not a Christian or even a “cultural Christian.” I’d have to know more about him to determine his worldview.
There are a lot of non-Christians who rarely enter a church except for weddings and funerals. What does that have to do with the number of Christians?
What are you implying the ‘numbers’ of Christians means?
I know when I sit down and have a conversation with Christians many of them concede they believe in something more (undefined because they are not sure what it is) and just follow Christianity because it is just easier for now.
Kind of like they believe in god (but they arenmt sure what it is) but religion is just where I born kind of thing.
Phil is not a Christian or even a “cultural Christian.” I’d have to know more about him to determine his worldview.
There are a lot of non-Christians who rarely enter a church except for weddings and funerals. What does that have to do with the number of Christians?
What are you implying the ‘numbers’ of Christians means?
Please don't tell you never heard a christian say or imply that since you folks are in the majority that you must be right. I'm not going to bother to look for it, but just that has been posted in this forum either yesterday or the day before. The numbers game.
First of all, I have never believed that numbers make something right or best.
If we take the OT and NT and make a list of all the teachings christians are supposed to fulfill, what percent of christians would you make an honest effort to fulfill all those teachings? What grade would you give yourself at fulfilling all the teachings in the NT and OT?
Please stop trying to assign motives to me. I am asking because I am curious. If you don't wish to answer, then you can say so, or ignore me.
I too enjoy beautiful music, architecture, and lovely decorations. I can see appreciating those things. However, I can appreciate them just fine without attending any religious services.
I hear! You are correct!
However, the appreciation is greater if there is an emotional connection. Or if the activity evokes childhood and teen years. The reaffirmation of the past glory is beautiful.
I've been to a Christmas Mass and several Jewish services although I do not understand Hebrew. I also enjoy Gregorian Chants. You, just like AA and others, seem hell bent on pigeon holing everyone into some arbitrary box in order to make your personal stance seem both the most logical and most balanced. It drags down discussions to a stand still.
The Jews have awesome traditions, no doubt! The tradition is a great unifier.
People like Julian use the phrase 'echo chamber' to imply the arguments are repeatedly asserted without rational thought, but it would also echo truths such as 2 + 2 = 4.
It is an irrational dismissal used to avoid making a rational response. Normally Christians who's religion is like a cult use this type of argument, and it is amusing that someone attempting to educate us is using the same tactics.
You are the first person I have ever seen that justifies the concept of staying in the echo chamber.
An echo chamber refers to situations in which beliefs are amplified or reinforced by communication and repetition inside a closed system and insulated from rebuttal. WIKI
Last edited by Julian658; 01-02-2021 at 06:53 PM..
Please don't tell you never heard a Christian say or imply that since you folks are in the majority that you must be right. I'm not going to bother to look for it, but just that has been posted in this forum either yesterday or the day before. The numbers game.
First of all, I have never believed that numbers make something right or best.
If we take the OT and NT and make a list of all the teachings Christians are supposed to fulfill, what percent of Christians would you make an honest effort to fulfill all those teachings? What grade would you give yourself at fulfilling all the teachings in the NT and OT?
Numbers don’t influence my beliefs. That’s the ad populum fallacy.
Do you think the behaviour of some Christians is a factor in determining whether or not the God of the Bible is real?
Numbers don’t influence my beliefs. That’s the ad populum fallacy.
Do you think the behaviour of some Christians is a factor in determining whether or not the God of the Bible is real?
I'd say the opposite is true.
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