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Old 04-24-2021, 06:32 PM
 
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Not looking for any special treatment, Badlander. I was an atheist for over 30 years of my early life and gave it no respect whatsoever. It simply was how I saw Reality not something to respect or not respect.
You didn't answer my main question about due respect. Part of respect is proving clarifications when requested.
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Old 04-24-2021, 07:07 PM
 
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Do you think it is a coincidence that women and minorities fare the best in nations that have a basis on Judeo-Christian values.


I ask again: Do you think it is a coincidence ?




Not all religions are the same therefore they cannot receive equal respect.





They are different, therefore they cannot receive equal respect. Women and LGBTQIA types do not fare well in Muslim nations



Atheism and Christianity are different. They cannot receive the same respect. Atheism has only been popular for a very short time. Lastly atheism is not a religion. Atheism is simply a lack of belief in Gods. That is it. There is nothing else in atheism.
I think most of those virtues have come from the Judeo-Christian are not longer a powerful and influential as they have been and currently fundamentalist are not in power. If just being Judeo-Christian means tolerant and treating minorities well then Uganda would be different?

I am not going to judge if I will respect ant one religion based on how certain nations have acted in the last 100 years. MysticPhD thinks Ithat Islam should not be respected because it has gone backwards in the last century. I should ingnore the fact that it was much more tolerant towards Jews than Christians were in the past because things have changed.

You are both expecting the due respect of a religion t9 be based upon how certain countries behave. That is a matter of respecting those countries regardless of the majority religions. Apparently because it's a majority in the States Christainity is the only religion that needs to be respected as none of the others are a majority. Silly and bigoted ways of looking at things.

When a Jewish synagogue was burned I think two years ago the local mosque came to their assistance but according t9 the two of you we dint have to repeat those Muslims because of Saudi Arbia!?

And you also ignore that LBGT folks didn't rare well here within the last generation. And yet fundamentalist Christians get respect for calling gays abominations and trying to prevent SSM?

But you can have your way, every accomplishment in say the States should be credited go Christainity. Includes thecaging od0fvchiodren at the border, for profit prisons, the space program and so forth.

To me those like yourself who refuse to respect others you don't deserve respect yourselves.

I will respect those that use their religion as a tool to help their lives, I will not respect those that use their religion as a weapon to be used on orhers. While the two of you whitewash your own background and deliberately ignore the backgrounds of others you get no respect.

If you can't respect atheism, Sihk, Islam, animslism, paganism as religions then I see no reason to respect your religion either.
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Old 04-24-2021, 07:09 PM
 
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I think most of those virtues have come from the Judeo-Christian are not longer a powerful and influential as they have been and currently fundamentalist are not in power. If just being Judeo-Christian means tolerant and treating minorities well then Uganda would be different?

I am not going to judge if I will respect ant one religion based on how certain nations have acted in the last 100 years. MysticPhD thinks Ithat Islam should not be respected because it has gone backwards in the last century. I should ingnore the fact that it was much more tolerant towards Jews than Christians were in the past because things have changed.

You are both expecting the due respect of a religion t9 be based upon how certain countries behave. That is a matter of respecting those countries regardless of the majority religions. Apparently because it's a majority in the States Christainity is the only religion that needs to be respected as none of the others are a majority. Silly and bigoted ways of looking at things.

When a Jewish synagogue was burned I think two years ago the local mosque came to their assistance but according t9 the two of you we dint have to repeat those Muslims because of Saudi Arbia!?

And you also ignore that LBGT folks didn't rare well here within the last generation. And yet fundamentalist Christians get respect for calling gays abominations and trying to prevent SSM?

But you can have your way, every accomplishment in say the States should be credited go Christainity. Includes thecaging od0fvchiodren at the border, for profit prisons, the space program and so forth.

To me those like yourself who refuse to respect others you don't deserve respect yourselves.

I will respect those that use their religion as a tool to help their lives, I will not respect those that use their religion as a weapon to be used on orhers. While the two of you whitewash your own background and deliberately ignore the backgrounds of others you get no respect.

If you can't respect atheism, Sihk, Islam, animslism, paganism as religions then I see no reason to respect your religion either.
yeah, like some stupid atheists buy into "ok, but just don't slow us down, we have the same goal", some stupide theist do the exact same thing. When they clearly know better.

Present company excluded of course. I mean outside of cd.
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Old 04-24-2021, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I’m a Christian and I’m curious how much respect atheists here think I am due?

I respect atheists, in general, but I have less respect for atheists who are combative anti-theist atheists, but in that case I’ve got more of an issue with their disrespectful behaviour than I do with their atheistic beliefs. I don’t really see this is an atheist vs. theist issue, because I receive the most hate and disrespect from “sorta-godders†who hold spiritual and supernatural beliefs. It seems to be mostly a Anti-Christian vs. Christian dynamic.
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Old 04-24-2021, 07:32 PM
 
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If you can't respect atheism, Sihk, Islam, animslism, paganism as religions then I see no reason to respect your religion either.

Demanding respect does not work.
Respect is earned.
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Old 04-24-2021, 07:38 PM
 
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I don't know as I never mentioned amazonian women? That sounds pretty sexists to me. With that sort of comment you are now on your own. You sound like an expert in human societies.
Here is one:



The only one I know.
Amazonian means powerful, it is not derogatory.
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Old 04-24-2021, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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If you can't respect atheism, Sihk, Islam, animslism, paganism as religions then I see no reason to respect your religion either.
More often that not I tend to agree with you.

Perhaps you mean respect people who are member of those religions?
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Old 04-24-2021, 09:02 PM
 
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More often that not I tend to agree with you.

Perhaps you mean respect people who are member of those religions?
I agree!

However, Christianity has contributed more to the world than animalism. Do you agree? or Disagree?
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Old 04-24-2021, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I agree!

However, Christianity has contributed more to the world than animalism. Do you agree? or Disagree?
Animalism? What has animalism got to do with this?
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Old 04-24-2021, 09:24 PM
 
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Animalism? What has animalism got to do with this?
A poster above suggest that animalism deserves the same respect as Christianity. The poster stated all religions deserve the same level of respect. Do you agree or disagree?
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