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Old 04-25-2021, 07:12 AM
 
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I guess the difference would be "Believe in jesus or go to hell". Yours makes sense. "Jesus is the only way" does not.
All religions are a collection of myths. But, Christianity was able to put forth a better message.
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Old 04-25-2021, 07:13 AM
 
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Are you talking about animism?
Don't be naive on purpose Phet. Answer the question:

Jesus was a Liberal Democrat and a Socialist. The defining message of the four Christian Gospels and of Jesus himself was this: helping the poor; healing the sick; clothe the naked; feed the hungry; uplift the underdog; care of children; distribute wealth; be mindful of immigrant and stranger in your land; etc.
By all the defining definitions of Liberal and Socialist, Jesus was most definitely both of them. He was also a rebel and a fighter for the poor, bullied and the displaced of his time.


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Old 04-25-2021, 07:16 AM
 
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All religions are a collection of myths. But, Christianity was able to put forth a better message.
I disagree with that. But that doesn't mean I ignore everything just because it has bad people in it either.

"a god sent its son to die because we are sinners" is just so bad it drowns out a lot of other stuff. To me.

The next biggest thing is "blind faith". Its ok as a methodology, I get that, but when two people are talking that don't need that methodology we can be more honest with each other.
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Old 04-25-2021, 07:29 AM
 
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Don't be naive on purpose Phet. Answer the question:

Jesus was a Liberal Democrat and a Socialist. The defining message of the four Christian Gospels and of Jesus himself was this: helping the poor; healing the sick; clothe the naked; feed the hungry; uplift the underdog; care of children; distribute wealth; be mindful of immigrant and stranger in your land; etc.
By all the defining definitions of Liberal and Socialist, Jesus was most definitely both of them. He was also a rebel and a fighter for the poor, bullied and the displaced of his time.


https://fiddleheadfocus.com/2019/08/...d-a-socialist/
That’s one Christian narrative, and most of today’s Mainline Protestant Church clergy follow it, but that’s a fairly small sliver within a broad spectrum of beliefs. It’s certainly not a narrative that proponents of the prosperity gospel follow, and the Evangelical camp is fast-growing, while nearly all other major Christian branches are shrinking.
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Old 04-25-2021, 07:32 AM
 
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I disagree with that. But that doesn't mean I ignore everything just because it has bad people in it either.

"a god sent its son to die because we are sinners" is just so bad it drowns out a lot of other stuff. To me.

The next biggest thing is "blind faith". Its ok as a methodology, I get that, but when two people are talking that don't need that methodology we can be more honest with each other.
The question that begs an answer is why Christianity fared better than hundreds of other competing pagan religions.
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Old 04-25-2021, 07:34 AM
 
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That’s one Christian narrative, and most of today’s Mainline Protestant Church clergy follow it, but that’s a fairly small sliver within a broad spectrum of beliefs. It’s certainly not a narrative that proponents of the prosperity gospel follow, and the Evangelical camp is fast-growing, while nearly all other major Christian branches are shrinking.
Sure, to the above message people attach their own agendas or pick and choose whatever suits them best. I have said the same about atheism. Most atheists attach other agendas to atheism.
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Old 04-25-2021, 07:35 AM
 
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The question that begs an answer is why Christianity fared better than hundreds of other competing pagan religions.
When your goal is to expand your ranks, and you remove pesky restrictions like kosher diets and routine male circumcision, and consciously adopt pagan rituals to make your burgeoning faith more appealing to potential converts, you’re going to have an easier time boosting your numbers.

But being better at advertising doesn’t make your underlying message any better from an objective standpoint.
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Old 04-25-2021, 07:38 AM
 
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Sure, to the above message people attach their own agendas or pick and choose whatever suits them best.
Right, the point being that you can’t paint all, or even most, Christians with a social justice gospel brush. It certainly doesn’t reflect the Roman Catholic canon.

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I have said the same about atheism. Most atheists attach other agendas to atheism.
But I don’t think that’s true, because most atheists aren’t Richard Dawkins et al.

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I had to look it up.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/animalism

The poster suggested this religion (and several others) deserves the same respect as Christianity.
As someone else pointed out, I think you mean Animism, which is an umbrella term used to describe a wide variety of traditions that attribute spirituality to the world around them.
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Old 04-25-2021, 07:45 AM
 
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I had to look it up.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/animalism

The poster suggested this religion (and several others) deserves the same respect as Christianity.
The first mention of animalism was in your post #409:

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I agree!

However, Christianity has contributed more to the world than animalism. Do you agree? or Disagree?

What made you bring that up?
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Old 04-25-2021, 07:55 AM
 
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The first mention of animalism was in your post #409:
Nope: Badlander mentioned it first in post #403.

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If you can't respect atheism, Sihk, Islam, animslism, paganism as religions then I see no reason to respect your religion either.


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What made you bring that up?
I was replying to badlander
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