Atlanta Airport - Airline Service & Routes Updates Thread (Columbus: suburbs, commute)

[cwkimbro]

Originally Posted by Prickly Pear

I’m surprised the ATL-SRQ flights are so expensive. Southwest only has directs at god awful times (like 6 or 7 am arrivals and 11 pm-midnight arrivals) 2x (one morning and night) each day with none on Saturdays. They have flights at other times but with layovers that like triple the price. Which at that point, makes you look at Delta.

Delta being well, Delta, serves this route very well in terms of frequency and times. But almost $600 for a round trip?? That seems unnecessary. The two cities aren’t particularly far apart as far as airplanes go.

American and United are in the same boat as charging Delta prices but having layovers and no directs.

That's a demand/timing thing.

For a flight Aug 23-26 you can get $226 Basic $273 Main right now.

The problem with smaller airports is two fold. They often can get away charging more, due to less direct competition and lower supply of sets. The catch-22 of that is they risk more waste running the route that can make it more expensive per passenger and they don't get the same economies of scale on the route.

The other thing is demand can swings far easier to the smaller airports with few flights on smaller planes. Something as simple as a volleyball team coming to Atlanta from Sarasota for a volleyball tournament could drive up demand on one particular day.

If you can use Tampa as an alternate, there will be demand fluctuations but they won't be as affected by small things. They can also create more economies of scale to make the flight cheaper. More efficiency on fuel per passenger on the route when flying to a larger market.

Same Dates as above prices are $158/$213 basic/main.

Also, demand is so high for flying right now buying tickets less than 2 weeks out has proven to be very expensive across the board lately. Our airfare costs have definitely been higher lately.

[Atlwarrior]

Delta Airlines

Atlanta – Frankfurt eff 29OCT22 A330-200 continues to operate 1 daily, replacing 767-400ER
Atlanta – Milan Malpensa eff 08MAR23 Service in 2023 resumes 3 weeks earlier than planned, 3 weekly 767-300ER
Atlanta – Rome eff 29OCT22 A330-900neo replaces A330-300
04JAN23 – 06MAR23 Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Atlanta – Madrid eff 28OCT22 Reduce from previously filed 7 weekly to 5, 767-300ER. Seasonal suspension from 02JAN23 to 08MAR23
Atlanta – Rio de Janeiro Galeao eff 17DEC22 Service resumption, 1 daily 767-300ER
Atlanta – Athens eff 01MAY22 5 weekly A330-300 service resumes 4 weeks earlier planned (27MAY22), 1 daily from 30MAY22
Atlanta – Barcelona eff 02APR22 A330-300 replaces 767-400ER (A330-200 02APR22 – 09APR22; Originally to replace 767-300ER)
Atlanta – Buenos Aires Ezeiza eff 25MAY22 767-400ER replaces -300ER
Atlanta – Dublin 767-300ER replaced by following aircraft
27MAR22 – 07AUG22 A330-300 (Previous: A330 from May 2022)
eff 08AUG22 A350-900XWB
Atlanta – Johannesburg Reduce from 7 weekly to following, A350-900XWB
26MAR22 – 22MAY22 3 weekly (Previous: 6 weekly)
eff 24MAY22 6 weekly
Atlanta – London Heathrow 767-400ER replaces A330-300, 1 daily. 2nd daily resumes from 05MAY22 (instead of 26MAY22) with 767-400ER
Atlanta – Munich 26MAR22 – 01MAY22 Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly, 767-400ER (767-300ER until 10APR22)
02MAY22 – 05JUN22 A330-300 replaces 767-400ER
Atlanta – Paris CDG 11APR22 – 24MAY22 DL082/083 A350-900XWB replaces A330-300 (Overall 2 daily A350 during this period)
Atlanta – Santiago de Chile eff 01JUL22 1 daily A350-900XWB, replacing A330-300
Atlanta – Seoul Incheon 4 weekly flights extended to 31JUL22 instead of 10JUL22 (further reduced to 3 11APR22 – 31MAY22), instead of 7. A350-900XWB operating
Atlanta – Tokyo Haneda 4 weekly flights instead of 7 extended to 28OCT22, instead of 10JUL22. A350-900XWB operating
Atlanta – Venice eff 26MAY22 1 daily service resumption with 767-300ER, instead of 06MAY22

Delta Air Lines during Northern winter 2022/23 season is introducing Airbus A350-900XWB aircraft on Atlanta – Honolulu route, replacing Airbus A330-300. The A350 is scheduled to operate this route from 30OCT22 to 25MAR23, reflected during the weekend of 10JUL22’s schedule update.

Schedule below is effective 06NOV22 – 11MAR23, except operational flight number changes scheduled during Christmas and New Year season.

DL1264 ATL0955 – 1440HNL 359 D
DL1497 HNL1825 – 0730+1ATL 359 D

KLM since late-May 2022 expanded codeshare coverage in Central America and The Caribbean, as KL-coded flight numbers being displayed on Delta’s service to/from Atlanta. Recently added codeshare routes as follow.

KLM operated by Delta
Atlanta – Antigua
Atlanta – George Town
Atlanta – Guatemala City
Atlanta – Marsh Harbour
Atlanta – Roatan
Atlanta – St. Croix
Atlanta – St. Kitts
Atlanta – San Pedro Sula
Atlanta – San Salvador

(June 2022) Delta introduced ex-LATAM Airbus A350-900XWB aircraft to its operation, with configuration J30W63Y246, internal aircraft code 35L. Since 02JUN22, the ex-LATAM A350-900XWB operates on following routes.

Atlanta – Detroit one-time on 13JUN22
Atlanta – Dublin eff 01AUG22
Atlanta – Santiago de Chile eff 02JUN22
Atlanta – Seattle eff 11JUL22 (DL334/869; up to 5 weekly by September)

[Atlwarrior]

Frontier Airlines' frequency increases

July 2022 Frequency Increases:
Atlanta – Baltimore/Washington Increase from 4 to 7 weekly
Atlanta – Cincinnati Increase from 3 to 7 weekly
Atlanta – Denver Increase from 7 to 14 weekly
Atlanta – Detroit Increase from 4 to 5 weekly
Atlanta – St. Louis Increase from 3 to 4 weekly

[Atlwarrior]

Air France
A350 service/summer 2022 season:
Paris CDG – Atlanta 2 daily

[testa50]

The gist of all those Delta updates is:

(1) COVID messing everything up isn't over
(2) Rio de Janeiro flight is coming back

[LynnHarris1]

U.S. allows Delta to temporarily cut some New York, Washington flights

WASHINGTON, Aug 12 (Reuters) - Delta Air Lines (DAL.N) can temporarily cut some flights at New York's LaGuardia and John F. Kennedy airports and Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said on Friday ..."

https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...aa-2022-08-12/

Reuters


Frontier Airlines announces 5 new international routes out of Atlanta

Travelers can now take trips to San José, Costa Rica, Liberia, Costa Rica, Nassau, Bahamas, San Salvador, El Salvador, and Kingston, Jamaica ..."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/new...a0de5e2115537b

WGCL Atlanta

[allenk893]

Originally Posted by Atlwarrior

Air France
A350 service/summer 2022 season:
Paris CDG – Atlanta 2 daily

These prices were so expensive, I had to forgo the trip. Just have to plan for next year in May when it's stupid cheap!

[testa50]

Originally Posted by LynnHarris1

Frontier Airlines announces 5 new international routes out of Atlanta

Travelers can now take trips to San José, Costa Rica, Liberia, Costa Rica, Nassau, Bahamas, San Salvador, El Salvador, and Kingston, Jamaica ..."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/new...a0de5e2115537b

WGCL Atlanta

It's only a total of 8 flights per week split between all 5 destinations, and all are already served by Delta, but this is a pretty cool expansion. Frontier is basically becoming in Atlanta what Southwest was supposed to be.

[MichiganderTexan]

Originally Posted by testa50

It's only a total of 8 flights per week split between all 5 destinations, and all are already served by Delta, but this is a pretty cool expansion. Frontier is basically becoming in Atlanta what Southwest was supposed to be.

What's the history of what happened with Southwest? Atlanta is 16th in rank for busiest airports for Southwest but since they use a more point-to-point model as opposed to a hub, I'm not surprised that Atlanta never became a bigger operation for them.

[testa50]

Originally Posted by MichiganderTexan

What's the history of what happened with Southwest? Atlanta is 16th in rank for busiest airports for Southwest but since they use a more point-to-point model as opposed to a hub, I'm not surprised that Atlanta never became a bigger operation for them.

AirTran used to have a huge hub operation in Atlanta. Southwest bought them and talked about how Atlanta would be this big part of their network when it was pretty transparently just trying to dismantle a low cost competitor.

Sure enough, they sold half of AirTran’s fleet (to Delta, lol) and slashed service. Tried a couple international routes but never did anything substantial—now there’s nothing International out of Atlanta.