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Old 03-02-2018, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Iconographer View Post
Cagle reminds me of the class moron who thinks he belongs on the Honor Roll because he had perfect attendance.
Ding, ding, ding!

You are much more diplomatic than I want to be when it comes to this moron. What he has done to the State is totally inexcusable.

 
Old 03-02-2018, 04:21 PM
Status: "Pickleball-Free American" (set 6 days ago)
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Ding, ding, ding!

You are much more diplomatic than I want to be when it comes to this moron. What he has done to the State is totally inexcusable.
And when is this dam gonna finally break?

The Real Casey Cagle: The Casey Cagle Affair

Claim: Cagle Overpaid Staffer To Hide Affair | WSB-TV

"Rumors have long circulated that Cagle has a philandering problem too. This is the point where we get into wink-wink-nod-nod territory as there have been long, assorted, and firm denials (puns kind of intended), but pretty much anyone you talk to treats the stories as fact.Basically, the main story goes (and this story is not new), after Cagle got elected Lt. Governor and before he actually took the office, a secretary whose name many of us know walked into his office looking for him and found him standing receiving . . . well . . . let’s call it a Lewinsky . . . from a lady not his wife who shortly thereafter allegedly parted ways with Cagle’s campaign wherein she had been employed."


And this from a Conservative publication LOL.

https://www.redstate.com/diary/Erick...p-are-cheaper/
 
Old 03-02-2018, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Savannah, GA
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Little shout out to Nathan deal. Who would have thought he’d end up as one of the better governors we’ve had.
Agreed. I applaud him for being more open to working with Atlanta.

As the years go by, Georgia will become less and less conservative and hopefully that will mean more fluidity between Atlanta and the rest of the state.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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And when is this dam gonna finally break?

The Real Casey Cagle: The Casey Cagle Affair

Claim: Cagle Overpaid Staffer To Hide Affair | WSB-TV

"Rumors have long circulated that Cagle has a philandering problem too. This is the point where we get into wink-wink-nod-nod territory as there have been long, assorted, and firm denials (puns kind of intended), but pretty much anyone you talk to treats the stories as fact.Basically, the main story goes (and this story is not new), after Cagle got elected Lt. Governor and before he actually took the office, a secretary whose name many of us know walked into his office looking for him and found him standing receiving . . . well . . . let’s call it a Lewinsky . . . from a lady not his wife who shortly thereafter allegedly parted ways with Cagle’s campaign wherein she had been employed."


And this from a Conservative publication LOL.

https://www.redstate.com/diary/Erick...p-are-cheaper/
This has been whispered about for a while now, I was wondering when it would finally come out.

Buh-bye, Casey.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 06:07 PM
 
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Little shout out to Nathan deal. Who would have thought he’d end up as one of the better governors we’ve had.
I agree. I've definitely softened towards him over the years... Now I'm afraid once his tenure is done, we'll end up with someone worse like Cagle.

Hopefully next week brings better publicity for the state because this week has just been embarrassing.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Came across this Maria Saporta article from October in which Delta CEO Bastion expresses great enthusiasm for Amazon and Atlanta. Obviously Delta would benefit enormously if Amazon comes here ... and Bastion will surely do whatever it takes to make this "issue" go away and reassure Bezos.

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...ed-coming.html
 
Old 03-03-2018, 01:09 AM
 
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Came across this Maria Saporta article from October in which Delta CEO Bastion expresses great enthusiasm for Amazon and Atlanta. Obviously Delta would benefit enormously if Amazon comes here ... and Bastion will surely do whatever it takes to make this "issue" go away and reassure Bezos.

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...ed-coming.html
That's a good find and an excellent point that Delta Airlines CEO Ed Bastian expresses great enthusiasm about the effort to attract Amazon HQ2 to Atlanta who likely will do whatever it takes to make this controversy go away and reassure Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos.

But the unfortunate reality is that there are many people in this state (particularly outside of the I-285 Perimeter and beyond outside of the Atlanta metro area) who do not express great enthusiasm about the prospect of a game-changing economic event (like being selected as the site of Amazon HQ2) for an Atlanta metro area that they view as being a mushrooming liberal/progressive/moderate urban/metropolitan menace and a mortal political threat to the deeply politically, culturally and socially conservative way-of-life of exurban and rural Georgia.

There is a significant and growing contingent of outer-suburban, exurban and rural Georgians who do not want Amazon HQ2 to come to Atlanta because they fear that such an event would help to accelerate the process of moving the state towards the left politically at the expense of the political dominance that they have enjoyed and continue to enjoy over Georgia state politics.

Many of those same conservative exurban and rural Georgians who do not want Amazon to locate their second headquarters in Atlanta are the people who support this retaliatory legislative measure towards Delta Airlines for their disassociation with the NRA.

Before major multinational corporations like Delta and the like dropped their association with the NRA, some (but most certainly not all) of these staunch OTP conservatives could be convinced to go along with offering state tax breaks and publicly-funded state incentives to corporations like Delta and Amazon in the name of economic development.

But after the disassociation from the NRA by the string of aforementioned major corporations (including Atlanta's own Delta Airlines), many of the deeply-conservative OTP types that dominate the Georgia Legislature and the political and electoral processes in Georgia most likely are going to be much more resistant to the idea of giving tax breaks to major multinational corporations like Delta and Amazon in the name of economic development.

Those deeply-conservative OTP types most likely will be much more resistant to the idea of giving tax breaks to major multinational corporations like Delta and Amazon in the name of economic development going forward because, in their eyes, Delta's move to disassociate from the NRA at the behest of growing calls from gun-control advocates (many of whom are politically, culturally and socially moderate and progressive urban residents in large major metro areas) demonstrates that large major corporations like Delta, Amazon, etc, do not share or even respect their deeply-conservative cultural and social values.

This clash between the Republican caucus of the Georgia Legislature and Delta Airlines over Delta's disassociation from the NRA is not just merely an election year political stunt or an incident that is motivated by the powerful lobbying efforts of the NRA. It is a cultural clash caused by a stark difference of opinion between exurban and rural voters who are part of a gun-oriented culture and CEOs and members of major multinational corporations like Delta who view the world through the lens of an international/cosmopolitan urban metropolitan culture that places much less value on guns.

It may not be impossible to get tax incentives passed for major corporations like Delta and Amazon, but it likely may be more difficult for many members of the legislative Republican caucuses to sign on because of anger over what conservative OTP voters view as persecution of their gun-oriented way-of-life by the corporate community.

This makes the Democratic minority caucuses in the Georgia House and Senate all the more crucial if leaders like Speaker Ralston and Lt. Governor Cagle somehow are able to move forward with these tax incentive initiatives without the support of much of their Republican caucuses.
 
Old 03-03-2018, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Atlanta's Castleberry Hill
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Originally Posted by Born 2 Roll View Post
That's a good find and an excellent point that Delta Airlines CEO Ed Bastian expresses great enthusiasm about the effort to attract Amazon HQ2 to Atlanta who likely will do whatever it takes to make this controversy go away and reassure Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos.

But the unfortunate reality is that there are many people in this state (particularly outside of the I-285 Perimeter and beyond outside of the Atlanta metro area) who do not express great enthusiasm about the prospect of a game-changing economic event (like being selected as the site of Amazon HQ2) for an Atlanta metro area that they view as being a mushrooming liberal/progressive/moderate urban/metropolitan menace and a mortal political threat to the deeply politically, culturally and socially conservative way-of-life of exurban and rural Georgia.

There is a significant and growing contingent of outer-suburban, exurban and rural Georgians who do not want Amazon HQ2 to come to Atlanta because they fear that such an event would help to accelerate the process of moving the state towards the left politically at the expense of the political dominance that they have enjoyed and continue to enjoy over Georgia state politics.

Many of those same conservative exurban and rural Georgians who do not want Amazon to locate their second headquarters in Atlanta are the people who support this retaliatory legislative measure towards Delta Airlines for their disassociation with the NRA.

Before major multinational corporations like Delta and the like dropped their association with the NRA, some (but most certainly not all) of these staunch OTP conservatives could be convinced to go along with offering state tax breaks and publicly-funded state incentives to corporations like Delta and Amazon in the name of economic development.

But after the disassociation from the NRA by the string of aforementioned major corporations (including Atlanta's own Delta Airlines), many of the deeply-conservative OTP types that dominate the Georgia Legislature and the political and electoral processes in Georgia most likely are going to be much more resistant to the idea of giving tax breaks to major multinational corporations like Delta and Amazon in the name of economic development.

Those deeply-conservative OTP types most likely will be much more resistant to the idea of giving tax breaks to major multinational corporations like Delta and Amazon in the name of economic development going forward because, in their eyes, Delta's move to disassociate from the NRA at the behest of growing calls from gun-control advocates (many of whom are politically, culturally and socially moderate and progressive urban residents in large major metro areas) demonstrates that large major corporations like Delta, Amazon, etc, do not share or even respect their deeply-conservative cultural and social values.

This clash between the Republican caucus of the Georgia Legislature and Delta Airlines over Delta's disassociation from the NRA is not just merely an election year political stunt or an incident that is motivated by the powerful lobbying efforts of the NRA. It is a cultural clash caused by a stark difference of opinion between exurban and rural voters who are part of a gun-oriented culture and CEOs and members of major multinational corporations like Delta who view the world through the lens of an international/cosmopolitan urban metropolitan culture that places much less value on guns.

It may not be impossible to get tax incentives passed for major corporations like Delta and Amazon, but it likely may be more difficult for many members of the legislative Republican caucuses to sign on because of anger over what conservative OTP voters view as persecution of their gun-oriented way-of-life by the corporate community.

This makes the Democratic minority caucuses in the Georgia House and Senate all the more crucial if leaders like Speaker Ralston and Lt. Governor Cagle somehow are able to move forward with these tax incentive initiatives without the support of much of their Republican caucuses.
This is why White ITP voters will be so critical in this next election. I am confident that enough Causians are educated enough to stop listening to Fox or CNN and really make a decision of quality on the direction they want to see Georgia go in. We are all human before party preference.
 
Old 03-03-2018, 08:01 AM
 
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This is why White ITP voters will be so critical in this next election. I am confident that enough Causians are educated enough to stop listening to Fox or CNN and really make a decision of quality on the direction they want to see Georgia go in. We are all human before party preference.
I wish I could agree with your last sentence. But our politicians have done an awesome job with media and money to convince a large number of Americans that is the other way.
 
Old 03-03-2018, 08:08 AM
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Location: St Simons Island, GA
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I wish I could agree with your last sentence. But our politicians have done an awesome job with media and money to convince a large number of Americans that is the other way.
Well said.
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