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View Poll Results: With King Charles III ascending to the throne, do you support Australia and/or New Zealand to transi
Remain as the Commonwealth of Australia 28 40.58%
Transition to the Republic of Australia 36 52.17%
Remain as the Realm of New Zealand 19 27.54%
Transition to the Republic of New Zealand 24 34.78%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 69. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-18-2023, 07:14 PM
 
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Umm...They wanted the games last year. They just didn't want the bill.
But that’s the ultimate test of whether you really do want something.

If it wasn’t for the fact that Australia more often than not “wins” the Commonwealth games, I’m not sure how much interest there would be.
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Old 07-18-2023, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Perth, Australia
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Umm...They wanted the games last year. They just didn't want the bill.
Last year we weren't in this economic crisis. The Victorian government has massively over estimated what they claim hosting the games will cost to try to justify why they are pulling out. They didn't even give the committee a chance to respond and In turn come to a solution.

What I find most interesting is how every state Premier in the country don't want to host it and it's no surprise given they are mostly labor and see it as a waste of money. In fact when questioned including the Prime minister their response was they are more focused on other international events.

Years ago hosting the Commonwealth games is something they would of jumped at the chance for. Now every state in Australia views it as too costly for an event that is so irrelevant it wouldn't make back the money that it costs
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Old 07-18-2023, 07:30 PM
 
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Last year we weren't in this economic crisis. The Victorian government has massively over estimated what they claim hosting the games will cost to try to justify why they are pulling out. They didn't even give the committee a chance to respond and In turn come to a solution.

What I find most interesting is how every state Premier in the country don't want to host it and it's no surprise given they are mostly labor and see it as a waste of money. In fact when questioned including the Prime minister their response was they are more focused on other international events.

Years ago hosting the Commonwealth games is something they would of jumped at the chance for. Now every state in Australia views it as too costly for an event that is so irrelevant it wouldn't make back the money that it costs
You only need to look at the lack of interest in hosting the Olympic Games to see its a broader issue with multi-sport events and their cost.

They didn't pick Brisbane out of a rich field. They were the only idiots who submitted a bid.
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Perth, Australia
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You only need to look at the lack of interest in hosting the Olympic Games to see its a broader issue with multi-sport events and their cost.

They didn't pick Brisbane out of a rich field. They were the only idiots who submitted a bid.
While the Olympics has become extremely expensive to host for many cities to want to consider it the only reason Brisbane was confirmed so easily was because it had exclusive negotiating rights months before it was selected so it was essentially guaranteed before it was officially selected. There were other countries that were very interested such as Qatar, Hungary and Germany. The Olympics games helps propel a city into "World City" Status which Brisbane is obviously going for
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Old 07-19-2023, 04:17 AM
 
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While the Olympics has become extremely expensive to host for many cities to want to consider it the only reason Brisbane was confirmed so easily was because it had exclusive negotiating rights months before it was selected so it was essentially guaranteed before it was officially selected. There were other countries that were very interested such as Qatar, Hungary and Germany. The Olympics games helps propel a city into "World City" Status which Brisbane is obviously going for
There were no other bidders. The Olympics used to go to global cities, now it goes to Brisbanes; that sweet, sweet intersection of a city with enough money to pay for it and enough small town yokel to not realise they've been sold a pig in a poke. You can almost hear the premier screeching to her ministers "We can be just like Sydney and Melbourne!"
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Old 07-19-2023, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Sydney Australia
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There were no other bidders. The Olympics used to go to global cities, now it goes to Brisbanes; that sweet, sweet intersection of a city with enough money to pay for it and enough small town yokel to not realise they've been sold a pig in a poke. You can almost hear the premier screeching to her ministers "We can be just like Sydney and Melbourne!"
“But we are not like them, we are better. Because we are Queenslanders!”
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Old 07-19-2023, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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“But we are not like them, we are better. Because we are Queenslanders!”
And don't you forget it.
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Old 07-19-2023, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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There were no other bidders. The Olympics used to go to global cities, now it goes to Brisbanes; that sweet, sweet intersection of a city with enough money to pay for it and enough small town yokel to not realise they've been sold a pig in a poke. You can almost hear the premier screeching to her ministers "We can be just like Sydney and Melbourne!"
Can't say I all that fussed about them happening, might rent our house out for a fortnight and bail. Its about a 10 minutes bus ride to the gabba, I usually walk home on the rare occasion i watch a lions game these days.
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Old 07-19-2023, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Perth, Australia
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There were no other bidders. The Olympics used to go to global cities, now it goes to Brisbanes; that sweet, sweet intersection of a city with enough money to pay for it and enough small town yokel to not realise they've been sold a pig in a poke. You can almost hear the premier screeching to her ministers "We can be just like Sydney and Melbourne!"
That's simply not true. The Olympics is going to be hosted by a number of world cities over the next several years. There were no rival bidders to Brisbane because the IOC steered it toward Brisbane https://apnews.com/article/australia...06db06e9577450

The likes of Doha and Qatar were going to launch their own bid for the 2032 Olympics which they made well known until they realised the IOC had already made up their mind which was a clear deterrent. How can you say that this is just because cities aren't interested in hosting international sporting events of a global magnitude when the next hosts of the Olympics are ALL Global cities? Paris, Milan, Los Angeles and then Brisbane?

Any other international sporting event the Australian States are generally happy to foot the cost for and regularly do it however for the Commonwealth games, not at all. None want or care for it. That simply wouldn't have happened years ago so it shows how things have changed
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Old 07-19-2023, 05:16 PM
 
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That's simply not true. The Olympics is going to be hosted by a number of world cities over the next several years. There were no rival bidders to Brisbane because the IOC steered it toward Brisbane https://apnews.com/article/australia...06db06e9577450
Yes mate, I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek. But I would suggest that Brisbane got it because John Coates (who if you have ever had anything to do with is an absolute low life) let the IOC know the Queensland government were cashed up yokels with an inferiority complex. We can all watch and marvel at how the bill will escalate from here. The final cost will be something around the $15b mark. Which is absurd for a city of 2.5m people. When Melbourne hosted the Olympics it was a completely different event run on a shoestring. The largesse – and brown paper bags – didn't really start until the 1970s.

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Any other international sporting event the Australian States are generally happy to foot the cost for and regularly do it however for the Commonwealth games, not at all. None want or care for it. That simply wouldn't have happened years ago so it shows how things have changed
The CG's actually have a very high cost considering their status in the sporting world and with the public at large. That's why they struggle to find any city willing to host. I think you're reading way too much into things trying to draw a conclusion about the republic movement based on this. The Labor Party in Victoria is republic through and through, if they thought hosting the CG's represented a nod to the monarchy they wouldn't have signed up for it in the first place.
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