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Yes, the challenging part would be to sell it to the public. Out of curiosity, what has made you disillusioned with the monarchy lately?
The people in it for the most part. Over the years as the " scandals " unfolded, I just couldn't see how some of these people deserved the privilege they were given. In the back of my mind, I knew that after the Queen died, that I would be less upset if we moved away from monarchy.
[QUOTE=Joe90;66172964]I don't think is true - people in the street aren't looking for constitutional change that reflects national identity... they aren't even thinking about it.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone ask "what's it mean to be a Kiwi?", except for tv/radio/print - it's only really an issue in the minds of academics, journalists, etc.[/quote]
In regards to New Zealand where sentiment on this is a little different that Australia as I said it's only a matter of time. A New Zealand with 10, 20 million is going to look alot different than today. New Zealand like every other country in history will go through changes over the decades and centuries that will define it. Most European nations only have flags and governmental institutions that are merely centuries old. Nations change. Australia and New Zealand will experience this.
[QUOTE=Joe90;66172964]I don't think is true - people in the street aren't looking for constitutional change that reflects national identity... they aren't even thinking about it.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone ask "what's it mean to be a Kiwi?", except for tv/radio/print - it's only really an issue in the minds of academics, journalists, etc.
In regards to New Zealand where sentiment on this is a little different that Australia as I said it's only a matter of time. A New Zealand with 10, 20 million is going to look alot different than today. New Zealand like every other country in history will go through changes over the decades and centuries that will define it. Most European nations only have flags and governmental institutions that are merely centuries old. Nations change. Australia and New Zealand will experience this.[/quote]
The growing changing make up of this country, will of course change sentiment as it gains confidence and influence. It does not mean any change will be better though. We need to act with caution already to our changing institutions and behind the scene influence.
In regards to New Zealand where sentiment on this is a little different that Australia as I said it's only a matter of time. A New Zealand with 10, 20 million is going to look alot different than today. New Zealand like every other country in history will go through changes over the decades and centuries that will define it. Most European nations only have flags and governmental institutions that are merely centuries old. Nations change. Australia and New Zealand will experience this.
The growing changing make up of this country, will of course change sentiment as it gains confidence and influence. It does not mean any change will be better though. We need to act with caution already to our changing institutions and behind the scene influence.[/quote]
I agree however I'm also optimistic for the future aswell. There is always light at the end of the tunnel
And nothing will really change - the person in the street still won't be asking themselves what it means to be a Kiwi, and constitutional change still won't be the hot topic at smoko.
The entire national identity will change. That is my point. The institutions and future symbolism such as flags are merely a reflection of the national identity of a people which changes over time
The growing changing make up of this country, will of course change sentiment as it gains confidence and influence. It does not mean any change will be better though. We need to act with caution already to our changing institutions and behind the scene influence.
I agree however I'm also optimistic for the future aswell. There is always light at the end of the tunnel[/quote]
I see very little to be optimistic about. From someone who at one time cheered on the multi cultural identity over hauling this nation. I witness the results on a daily basis . We become ever more a nation whose philosophy is greed. No point going into a rant. But I fear for the country of my birth very much.
Any thoughts or ambitions of a republican debate or referendum by the PM, have been put on ice for the time being.
I'm not reading too much into that story, though. Seems more like an effort to control the media narrative in the context of a visit by Charles and Camilla.
What does a visit by Charles and Camilla even mean to present-day Australians? Do they wave to us and we all wave back like fawning plebs? I just don't get it.
General AU population aged less than 'Boomers' couldn't care less.... and a large percentage of Boomers couldn't care less either.... no longer an issue the Royal Family in Australia....
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