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what most are saying is if you know of am impending emergency situation it is a lot easier to prepare for getaway if you have an ICE due to the fact that you can easily carry extra fuel with you and store it days/weeks out.
it's so funny that somehow you came to the completely wrong conclusions and opposite of what most people were saying
did you even read the thread?
The conclusions are that it's easy to get out with an EV because of the long lead time and plenty people with EV's did, but there was a question about returning because there was no power in much of the state. But as it turns out and was cited, you can't find gas anywhere along the major return routes so that gas car is as useless as an EV with no power.
The correct conclusion is there is no real disadvantage to owning an EV in hurricane situations
I can't believe this thread is still chugging along.
The same usual suspects trying to dig up the most obscure ways to cheerlead electric cars.
Buy whatever you want and tell yourself whatever you want to believe to justify it, just stop yapping about it. That's why everybody hates you people.
the drive from Naples to Gainesville was 288 miles of gut-wrenching anxiety, and not because of destruction from the massive hurricane that tore through the day before.
Along that entire stretch of Interstate 75 — four hours from far southwest Florida to nearly the top of the state — there was hardly a functioning gas pump to be found.
Mile after mile, motorists were exiting the freeway on fumes and encountering the same sorry sight: empty gas pumps covered with yellow bags, or even worse, wrapped in the dreaded shrink wrap.
This is kind of a ridiculous thread, as every car has its purpose. A electric car owner generally have those as commuter cars and even a Tesla would have made it atleast 200 miles to another charging station and then another 200 miles along with 2 -4 hrs or their time waiting for it to fully charge, so technically if a Tesla owner had to stop to charge twice, they could make it from Miami to atleast GA or even Atlanta.
A Nissan Leaf, Focus Electric, or any other all electric cars owner would be screwed, but they already know that car wasnt made for long road trips in the same manner they would not use a Leaf or a Tesla to tow a Boat, vs using a Full sized SUV or Pick Up truck to do that task.
Yes, that's what happens when a disaster hits. Seeing as most of Florida is still without power where will one go recharge their EV.
I'm sure grocery stores are out of stock of basic staples like milk, bread, water, etc.
Maybe if all the delivery trucks were EV we wouldn't have this issue right Or first responders?
No one is saying if you drive an ICE and a disaster hits you don't have to worry.
No, what most are saying is if you know of am impending emergency situation it is a lot easier to prepare for getaway if you have an ICE due to the fact that you can easily carry extra fuel with you and store it days/weeks out.
Those that don't prepare are doomed regardless of what kind of vehicle they have.
Just as those that try to go purchase bottled water hours before vs days.
I swear there is a direct correlation with irrational hatred of EVs and inability to read for comprehension.
A large number of the supercharging stations are already up and running, even in areas where residential areas are still not powered up. For example the Tampa supercharger is on and has been since Tuesday due to its location being on the same circuits as "vital" infrastructure.
The irony is the EVs could leave, fully charged, up until the moment of the storm. All the chargers were available, online, and had empty stalls right up until the power went out. Meanwhile, they are disproportionately back online, to the degree that pushing a dozen Tesla owners are already back home and have been able to charge all along the way.
Which reminds me about the "carrying gas" issue. Even if you get 400 mi to a tank, that means you need to carry what 25-30 gallons of gas to make sure you get back. Seems a bit dangerous.
This is kind of a ridiculous thread, as every car has its purpose. A electric car owner generally have those as commuter cars and even a Tesla would have made it atleast 200 miles to another charging station and then another 200 miles along with 2 -4 hrs or their time waiting for it to fully charge, so technically if a Tesla owner had to stop to charge twice, they could make it from Miami to atleast GA or even Atlanta.
A Nissan Leaf, Focus Electric, or any other all electric cars owner would be screwed, but they already know that car wasnt made for long road trips in the same manner they would not use a Leaf or a Tesla to tow a Boat, vs using a Full sized SUV or Pick Up truck to do that task.
Just to be clear. No one fully charges their car at a supecharger station because it is an exponential decline. You can get to 85% in 45 minutes, no one is going to wait another 2+hrs just to get to 100. Especially not with the 150 or so charging stations. It is more cost efficient time wise to charge more often for less time.
the drive from Naples to Gainesville was 288 miles of gut-wrenching anxiety, and not because of destruction from the massive hurricane that tore through the day before.
Along that entire stretch of Interstate 75 — four hours from far southwest Florida to nearly the top of the state — there was hardly a functioning gas pump to be found.
Mile after mile, motorists were exiting the freeway on fumes and encountering the same sorry sight: empty gas pumps covered with yellow bags, or even worse, wrapped in the dreaded shrink wrap.
Except ICE owners are NOT in the same boat. A few of us have explained this numerous times. ICE owners can bring gas cans full of gas back with them, negating the need for those gas pumps to get home.
Except ICE owners are NOT in the same boat. A few of us have explained this numerous times. ICE owners can bring gas cans full of gas back with them, negating the need for those gas pumps to get home.
Electric car owners have time to stop and let their cars charge for 4-6 hours
I swear there is a direct correlation with irrational hatred of EVs and inability to read for comprehension.
A large number of the supercharging stations are already up and running, even in areas where residential areas are still not powered up. For example the Tampa supercharger is on and has been since Tuesday due to its location being on the same circuits as "vital" infrastructure.
The irony is the EVs could leave, fully charged, up until the moment of the storm. All the chargers were available, online, and had empty stalls right up until the power went out. Meanwhile, they are disproportionately back online, to the degree that pushing a dozen Tesla owners are already back home and have been able to charge all along the way.
Which reminds me about the "carrying gas" issue. Even if you get 400 mi to a tank, that means you need to carry what 25-30 gallons of gas to make sure you get back. Seems a bit dangerous.
I have no hatred of EV's at all. I think the concept is pretty cool. But I also think there are still times today where it isn't practical. An emergency is one of those and it isn't realistic to assume that EV's have all of the capability of a gas burning vehicle, YET.
Carrying gas back is no more dangerous than sitting on a giant Lithium Ion battery. We all know what happens if a LI-Ion battery overheats or burns.
Tesla's answer is to use the electronics in the car to prevent that. The car depends upon an electronically controlled liquid cooling system. They also use a series of fuses and overcharge protection to try to prevent the batteries from failing and causing a fire. The downside to that, is that one just has to hope that none of those advanced systems fail and allow the batteries to overheat. Since we all know that electronics never fail (), then that obviously isn't a concern.
Point is, there are risks to be taken with any fuel source. Fossil fuels, batteries, etc... There is an inherent risk with any of them.
Create a poll asking the question as to which type of vehicle a person would prefer to evacuate in. List the options as an EV or a gas burner. See what the results are. I have no doubt that opinions may sway towards EVs in the future, but I doubt the results will indicate that right now.
Most people with Teslas probably stored their cars away instead of driving them North. They don't want to take the risk of having to stop and can't find a charging station especially with the amount of traffic.
Unless you have a Model X, those Model S don't have much trunk space. Until Tesla comes out with a full-size SUV, truck, minivan, or larger vehicle it's mainly a city driving car.
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Or first responders?
), then that obviously isn't a concern.
