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Old 01-17-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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They better dramatically improve the self parking software then. The stuff that’s out now is terrible and has been for over a decade.
AI cars have no need to parallel park. They just slot in next to each other with a few inches of clearance. Just like any modern parking garage with straight pull in slots.
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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They will drop you off at the door and come pick up you and your stuff on demand. Think how many more cars will fit in the lot since no one needs to open a door once the car is parked.
LOL, you are grasping at straws. Parking lots have very little space between cars. Sure you could probably jam another 10% into a parking lot. But that's nothing remarkable. The cars would still need to be far enough apart, to have space to maneuver in and out of the spaces. Now think about the traffic jam that will occur at the pick up points. Then the old lady who bought too much stuff and is trying to jam it into her compact car, while all the other driverless cars wait behind her car, while the owners stand waiting at the entranceway. It's highly unlikely that type of parking lot would be any more efficient than what we have now. At times it could be a total disaster.
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:10 PM
 
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AI cars have no need to parallel park. They just slot in next to each other with a few inches of clearance. Just like any modern parking garage with straight pull in slots.
I was referring to perpendicular parking. They still require a huge space to be available, and they make like a 16 point turn to get in there just right sometimes.
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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I was referring to perpendicular parking. They still require a huge space to be available, and they make like a 16 point turn to get in there just right sometimes.
You must live in a different geometric world than I do.
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Or areas with a high wildlife population. And no, a self driving car will not be able to tell if a deer is about to jump out in front of it. I’m smart enough to know to slow down during rut season.
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That is valid. The ability of a deer or a human pedestrian to move in front of a vehicle is a part of the puzzle. It is even more of a problem that interacting with Level 0 vehicles including bicycles and motorcycles. Another concern is being hijacked by a bunch of demonstrators blocking the road, or a herd of cows.
You guys obviously didn't watch the video I linked to. Toward the end, they used an example of a bicycle rider way off to the left (that is visually blocked if you were a human sitting in the far right car) who eventually comes across despite the car getting a green light. The radar can pick that up and make assumptions. Watch the video - they consider a lot of things... assume a lot of wrong-doings... err on the side of caution. A deer would come in a straight line onto the roadway you're driving and it will predict it. If it can predict kids running out onto a roadway (no worse than a human can), then it can do the same with animals at an acceptable rate. It's not going to be magic and physics will still apply, but it will do better than humans. Basically, if it can happen, it will learn from its own experience as well as our programming, with the bonus being quicker reaction time.

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The cars would still need to be far enough apart, to have space to maneuver in and out of the spaces. Now think about the traffic jam that will occur at the pick up points. Then the old lady who bought too much stuff and is trying to jam it into her compact car, while all the other driverless cars wait behind her car, while the owners stand waiting at the entranceway. It's highly unlikely that type of parking lot would be any more efficient than what we have now. At times it could be a total disaster.
Exactly - there are currently hold-ups if people do drop-offs, especially more than 1 car doing so. It will be worse with driverless cars if that will become the norm. Park in a spot first, pretty please.

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Old 01-17-2018, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Exactly - there are currently hold-ups if people do drop-offs, especially more than 1 car doing so. It will be worse with driverless cars if that will become the norm. Park in a spot first, pretty please.
Yeah, we should be passing laws right now, to put a stop to any notion that driverless cars will ever be allowed to drop off their owners and drive anywhere without a person in the car, even to a parking space. If that cat ever gets out of the bag, we will have traffic nightmares like we have never seen.
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Old 01-18-2018, 06:14 PM
 
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Will a person need a valid driver's license? In the far future will there be no more driving schools/instructors?

Will police, firemen, ambulance drivers, roadside assistance, and tow truck drivers be the only ones exempt from the driverless cars?

The topic of driverless cars fascinates me. So many questions to be answered. Too many scenarios out there. Just when you think of all the questions another pops up.
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Will a person need a valid driver's license?<>
Important questions to consider, especially the operators of specialty equipment like ambulances and repair trucks.
Consider that once upon a time an operator was needed for an elevator and HE got to wear a spiffy uniform and ring the bell.
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Will a person need a valid driver's license? In the far future will there be no more driving schools/instructors?

Will police, firemen, ambulance drivers, roadside assistance, and tow truck drivers be the only ones exempt from the driverless cars?

The topic of driverless cars fascinates me. So many questions to be answered. Too many scenarios out there. Just when you think of all the questions another pops up.
So many questions, and none of them are being answered. I don't think it will ever get past the point of having a licensed driver in the car, or at least nearby the car. Somebody has to be legally in control of that car, at all times. Otherwise it's going to be complete anarchy, and no human responsibility for anything. If it ever goes beyond that point, and we allow unoccupied cars to travel on the roads, it's going to be a disaster, and a big mistake. Similar to what happened in the 1930s when public transportation was being replaced with personal vehicles, with no regard for the pollution and congestion problems it would cause. Driverless cars are not something to look forward to. They are just going to be a big pain in the ass.
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Old 01-19-2018, 01:30 AM
 
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Yeah, we should be passing laws right now, to put a stop to any notion that driverless cars will ever be allowed to drop off their owners and drive anywhere without a person in the car, even to a parking space. If that cat ever gets out of the bag, we will have traffic nightmares like we have never seen.
Random thought but wouldn't terrorists have a field day with driverless cars that can drop off owners? Imagine all the bombings that can now happen without any human sacrifice? How can the government prevent car bombings in the future with this advanced technology?
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