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Old 03-24-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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They never will take anything away from me. I will never get in one of those death machines. I will always be driving a car with a steering wheel gas and brake pedal for as long as I live and no fascist sadists is gonna stop me!!!
I don't want a self-driving car either. Pay attention though because this is what I see happening:

1. The technology is gradually perfected over the next ten years.

2. By 2030, a system is available that will allow vehicles to operate about twice as safely as a car with a driver.

3. By 2032, the trucking companies have talked all government regulatory bodies into allowing them to operate entirely autonomous systems without a driver in the truck. Driverless trucks are common and transport much of the nation's freight. Without drivers, the cost of delivering freight drops considerably.

3. Totally autonomous cars begin appearing, but are quite expensive. However, the cost of self-driving technology is dropping year by year.

4. The automobile insurance industry is paying close attention. By 2035, it sees that the rate of accidents is substantially lower for self-driving cars. It begins offering discounts to those with the technology. By 2037, the discount is 50% or more. As the price of technology drops, insurance companies offer to pay to have autonomous technology installed in vehicles without it.

5. The insurance companies and various corporate interests call on Congress to pays laws requiring all cars to have this technology. Congress bows to this pressure and enacts these laws.

6. A few years later, the law is amended to require those without the technology to have it installed in their vehicles. Tax incentives are given to do this.

7. By 2040, all cars are autonomous.
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:36 AM
 
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I don't want a self-driving car either. Pay attention though because this is what I see happening:

1. The technology is gradually perfected over the next ten years.

2. By 2030, a system is available that will allow vehicles to operate about twice as safely as a car with a driver.

3. By 2032, the trucking companies have talked all government regulatory bodies into allowing them to operate entirely autonomous systems without a driver in the truck. Driverless trucks are common and transport much of the nation's freight. Without drivers, the cost of delivering freight drops considerably.

3. Totally autonomous cars begin appearing, but are quite expensive. However, the cost of self-driving technology is dropping year by year.

4. The automobile insurance industry is paying close attention. By 2035, it sees that the rate of accidents is substantially lower for self-driving cars. It begins offering discounts to those with the technology. By 2037, the discount is 50% or more. As the price of technology drops, insurance companies offer to pay to have autonomous technology installed in vehicles without it.

5. The insurance companies and various corporate interests call on Congress to pays laws requiring all cars to have this technology. Congress bows to this pressure and enacts these laws.

6. A few years later, the law is amended to require those without the technology to have it installed in their vehicles. Tax incentives are given to do this.

7. By 2040, all cars are autonomous.


It does not have to be that way. We the people can stand up and put a stop to this!! I will not vote for anyone who allows such nonsense on the road especially if they make it mandatory.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Victory Mansions, Airstrip One
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I doubt it will ever go 100% AV. There are just so many situations where it wouldn't make sense, on farms, construction sites, etc. And most of those vehicles will need access to public roads at some point. I could see some highways being restricted to only AVs though.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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It does not have to be that way. We the people can stand up and put a stop to this!! I will not vote for anyone who allows such nonsense on the road especially if they make it mandatory.
The insurance is mandatory and the companies will refuse to take on the risk except for a price the only the 1 percent can afford. You will just be priced off the roads and restricted to race tracks and collector shows.
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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I don't want a self-driving car either. Pay attention though because this is what I see happening:

1. The technology is gradually perfected over the next ten years.

2. By 2030, a system is available that will allow vehicles to operate about twice as safely as a car with a driver.

3. By 2032, the trucking companies have talked all government regulatory bodies into allowing them to operate entirely autonomous systems without a driver in the truck. Driverless trucks are common and transport much of the nation's freight. Without drivers, the cost of delivering freight drops considerably.

3. Totally autonomous cars begin appearing, but are quite expensive. However, the cost of self-driving technology is dropping year by year.

4. The automobile insurance industry is paying close attention. By 2035, it sees that the rate of accidents is substantially lower for self-driving cars. It begins offering discounts to those with the technology. By 2037, the discount is 50% or more. As the price of technology drops, insurance companies offer to pay to have autonomous technology installed in vehicles without it.

5. The insurance companies and various corporate interests call on Congress to pays laws requiring all cars to have this technology. Congress bows to this pressure and enacts these laws.

6. A few years later, the law is amended to require those without the technology to have it installed in their vehicles. Tax incentives are given to do this.

7. By 2040, all cars are autonomous.
Keep dreaming.
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Self driving cars are going to come and there is no stopping that from happening.
I remember in the '80s when college professors warned that robots were the immediate future, and jobs for humans would be scarce. That was 30+ years ago.

Driverless technology is great but it will never replace human drivers who have feelings, empathy and quicker reflexes. As proven by this accident, there is no way for a computer to stop a 2 ton vehicle if a human walks in front of the car.

The convicted felon who was operating the Uber SUV could have prevented the accident if he was paying attention to the roadway.

If driverless technology becomes standard, the only way to stop the inevitable carnage is to prevent humans or animals from entering the roadways.

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Old 03-24-2018, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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The insurance is mandatory and the companies will refuse to take on the risk except for a price the only the 1 percent can afford. You will just be priced off the roads and restricted to race tracks and collector shows.
You are getting it backwards. The insurance companies will refuse to take on the risk of insuring self-driving cars except at a price that 1% can afford. Insurance companies are not going to pay for stupid preventable accidents like this one.
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Personally, I think self driving cars will have very limited application. I don't think self driving trucks on public highways will ever happen.
The only way I envision self-driving cars or trucks is if they build walls or barriers to prevent humans or animals from walking across the road.

Driverless sensors are only as good as the range of information available. Imagine the carnage in rain, fog or snow.
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Autonomous cars still have a better driving record than humans.
You assume there are hundreds or thousands of self-driving vehicles on the road. Until there are a substantial number of these vehicles operating on roadways, how can you make the claim they are safer?
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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I remember in the '80s when college professors warned that robots were the immediate future, and jobs for humans would be scarce. That was 30+ years ago.

Driverless technology is great, but it will never replace human drivers who have feelings, empathy and quicker reflexes. As proven by this accident, there is no way for a computer to stop a 2 ton vehicle if a human walks in front of the car.

The convicted felon who was operating the Uber SUV could have prevented the accident if he was paying attention to the roadway.

If driverless technology becomes standard, the only way to stop the inevitable carnage is to prevent humans or animals from entering the roadways.
Robots will take over just about every single job, before self-driving cars take over the roads. Programing a robot to do a simple job is way easier than programming a car to drive on every road in the world, in every type of driving condition.
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