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Old 09-29-2018, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Nobody is saying what the Japanese tariffs areon imports. It just doesn't fit the narrative that tariffs "destroy" the car industry.
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Old 09-29-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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Nobody is saying what the Japanese tariffs areon imports. It just doesn't fit the narrative that tariffs "destroy" the car industry.
Zero...as has been said multiple times in this thread.
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Old 09-29-2018, 03:55 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Sorry I only buy foreign vehicles. They are simply made better! I purchase one brand new American made car once and it died at 80k miles. Forget it! All of the foreign cars we have purchased have doubled that and we’re still running great when we sold/traded them in!
How long ago was that? Because the quality of decades ago wasn't so good, I agree, but American nameplates are much better now. The ones that have the reliability issues seem to be the European vehicles now (Mercedes Benz, Land Rover, etc.)

And Asian cars haven't been perfect either. Someone close to me purchased a Hyundai Excel (Excel- HAHA! ) and it started falling apart with major transmission problems, electrical problems and all kinds of other issues before 50K miles.

My own experience with Honda was horrible with a lawn mower. That thing wouldn't run 15 minutes without some kind of issue, mainly with the carburetor. If they can't even make a mower right, how are they going to make a proper complex motor vehicle? I know some people swear by them, but they seem like a rough ride in how they handle, sound, etc.

But perhaps the bigger issue is the lack of loyalty that Americans have towards buying cars that originate from their home country (even though yes, some of them have parts that may have been manufactured elsewhere or the cars may have been assembled elsewhere just like some Asian cars may be assembled in the US). If you go to an Asian grocery store, you will see a parking lot full of Toyotas, Honda, Hyundais, et. al. but you won't see Ford, Chevy, etc.. Very rarely if ever. If you go to a middle America store where there aren't that many (if any) people of Asian descent shopping, you will see a mix of Fords, Chevys, but also lots of Toyota, Hondas, Hyundais, et. al.

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Old 09-29-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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Buying something out of loyalty/patriotism rather than a cold capitalist decision on the best product for your money is un-American itself.
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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Buying something out of loyalty/patriotism rather than a cold capitalist decision on the best product for your money is un-American itself.
I agree with this, but I took my first trip to the UK this year, and we were pretty surprised that there were NO American cars on the road. This stinks of an imbalance.

Even the cab drivers drove Mercedes.
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:37 PM
 
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Dude you stated an outright lie, which I corrected. There are various restrictions yes, but no tariff. We also have a lot of restrictions on what of theirs we can bring over here.

They make things specifically for our market to meet regs. Our domestics aren’t as interested in building Japan-spec specific cars. It’s a smaller saturated market.
No lies here, they on purpose have been closing out any American auto or motorcycle imports for years and no one has done anything about it, while there government subsidized car industry has been dumping vehicles on us for years. True we have diesel restrictions on passenger vehicles, but it's a level playing field. They have not had a level playing field in there country for years, course our politicians have never raised any concerns, but Trump is and it's about time. Your saying no need for a f250, chevy nuthin crickets, yea right those great Japanese 3/4 and 1 ton trucks they have, not one mustang, no Harley Davidson's your infatuation with all these rice burners is rather odd.
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:40 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Buying something out of loyalty/patriotism rather than a cold capitalist decision on the best product for your money is un-American itself.
This doesn't compute, on several levels.
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:48 PM
 
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No But better than tariffs:

U.S. companies or other foreign ‘transplants’ were not allowed to be built in Japan by
under Japan’s strict investment laws;
x Each individual imported car was required to be brought to the Ministry of Transport for
two days for inspection before approval for sale;
x Japan’s exclusive ‘keiretsu ‘arrangements between government and Japanese automakers
prevented US and other foreign auto companies from doing business in Japan;
x Japanese auto distribution system was stacked against importers- existing auto dealers
were forbidden to sell foreign autos or to partner with foreign automakers.
x Japan has used automotive technical regulations as a means to protect local markets by
creating excessively difficult and costly regulatory and certification requirements, with
little or no safety or emissions benefits;
x The tax system in Japan was designed to benefit domestic over imported motor vehicle
types;[/url]
No tarrifs you say, no problem lets start playing by there rules, works for me. Are u by chance a democrat, lol. Just thank it's time for a better deal, cause the one that's been in place really sux for the American auto industry
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:52 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Getting the Japanese to buy Detroit 3 cars is like asking Americans to buy Yugos again.

The Japanese build the best cars in the world. Why would they want to waste their money on American iron?
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Getting the Japanese to buy Detroit 3 cars is like asking Americans to buy Yugos again.

The Japanese build the best cars in the world. Why would they want to waste their money on American iron?
The union hatter is back.
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