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To the person that asked whether my Jeep was Grand Cherokee or plain Cherokee, we have the Grand Cherokee and wife feels sorry for her friends in their Lexus RX, BMW X5, Mercedes GLE, etc.
Why? Jeep ride compared to any of those vehicles is crap.
Oh no I don’t care about Unibody verses frames unless it’s for towing but I do tend to buy body on frame SUV’s for my own needs as I tow a bit . I just think they are ridiculous, raise the center of gravity of the vehicle unnecessarily and don’t do anything particularly better for a family then a Country Squire did in 1965. I’ve never driven one I liked better then a correspondent Sedan version not one ! Not even a Cullinan, a Cayenne Turbo S. I need a SUV for some things but I tend to buy ones that can seriously tow stuff.
Btw Grand Wagoneers are exempted from all of this as they are awesome works of art but they are serious vehicles in any case.
A little smaller than a Grand Cherokee, probably less money also, I suggest you take a drive in a Stelvio. I have driven that and also the Giulia and prefer the performance, seating position and sightlines of the taller one.
We've become a species of stuff. Sedans you put your stuff on the back seat or jam it in the smallish trunk on some. CUV and /SUV's, Open the back, fold down the rear seat, slide all your chit in, nothing to lift over.
You're quite right. And fortunately, your needs, preferences and expectations are sufficiently common, that there's a promising business-case in marketers aiming for your dollar, and manufacturers building accordingly.
In contrast, I want a vehicle that's a pure single-seater... that has no cargo capacity whatsoever. It would have manual-everything, (right down to manual starting of the engine), demanding full attention from its operator at all times, and a modicum of fitness and athleticism to be operated even in normal traffic - let alone anything specialized. It would emphasize performance (handling, acceleration and braking) while also offering good efficiency. In contrast, "utility" or comfort would be utterly excluded. It would be light and have a small footprint, making it easy to park, to store in confined spaces, and to manually push around. Its mechanical simplicity would render it easy to service, so that even major repairs, such as removal/reinstallation of the engine, would be straightforward for an amateur mechanic.
Does the US automotive market offer such a vehicle?
A little smaller than a Grand Cherokee, probably less money also, I suggest you take a drive in a Stelvio. I have driven that and also the Giulia and prefer the performance, seating position and sightlines of the taller one.
I didn’t think much of it ... was infinitely better then the horrible Maserati however. I’m not exactly an Italian car fan either there has been the odd one I’ve liked but few and far between.
You're quite right. And fortunately, your needs, preferences and expectations are sufficiently common, that there's a promising business-case in marketers aiming for your dollar, and manufacturers building accordingly.
In contrast, I want a vehicle that's a pure single-seater... that has no cargo capacity whatsoever. It would have manual-everything, (right down to manual starting of the engine), demanding full attention from its operator at all times, and a modicum of fitness and athleticism to be operated even in normal traffic - let alone anything specialized. It would emphasize performance (handling, acceleration and braking) while also offering good efficiency. In contrast, "utility" or comfort would be utterly excluded. It would be light and have a small footprint, making it easy to park, to store in confined spaces, and to manually push around. Its mechanical simplicity would render it easy to service, so that even major repairs, such as removal/reinstallation of the engine, would be straightforward for an amateur mechanic.
Does the US automotive market offer such a vehicle?
It sounds like you want one of those Elio cars. I don’t think they’ll ever happen though. I know someone who put a deposit down several years ago, and still nothing.
Makers sell what they can make people buy. The trend at present is that if you put chunky fenders on a sedan, people buy it. Case closed.
Plus domestic selling dealerships also rely on heavy discounts and attractive factory financing to entice customers to buy.
I know many domestic car owners who only picked their vehicle based on how much it was "on sale" for and getting 0% financing.
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