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Originally Posted by ddm2k
This is the interior in question. A 2017 Range Rover. Article did not specify if Sport or any other model, so we can only surmise they meant Range Rover (Full Size). It's a dial:
This is neither an unprecedented control as a shifter, nor confusing to use. It's like a dial on a washing machine.
The shifter below is on all other models of Range Rover for 2017. The same ol' slap stick that's been used on BMW's for... 10 years?
Both setups automatically apply the parking brake when Park is selected. It cannot be defeated by the driver. If it rolled away, it wasn't in Park.
Are you thinking the more likely result was both the transmission shifting out of gear AND the parking brake engagement failed at the same time, with no prior history of failure?
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Are you thinking the more likely result was both the
transmission shifting out of gear AND the parking brake
engagement failed at the same time, with no prior
history of failure?
Whatever happened, the result was the vehicle rolling over the operator as they got out of it, as shown in the video.
All because of needlessly re-inventing the... transmission shifter.
Location: Removing a snake out of the neighbor's washing machine
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Originally Posted by mshultz
I don't know your age, but what are you going to do in 11 years, when your
2012 automobile is 20 years old? Here in the salt belt, the bodies fall apart before
the mechanical parts wear out, but a 20 year old vehicle is still a very old vehicle.
Find another 2012 or earlier model year vehicle, with as low mileage as possible!
Camrys and Accords of all vintages since 2000 are still as ubiquitous on our roads as are planes at airports, so I'm not too worried.
Last edited by TheGrandK-Man; 01-01-2021 at 08:28 PM..
Annoying as all out for those of us who, in the turn of events, end up driving a variety of vehicles. Good user interface design is supposed to be intuitive.
I agree, 100% Although I'm not in favor of Government intrusion, I'll say this....Decades ago, mid-60s, I believe, one thing the US Government mandated in cars, is a "standard" automatic transmission shifter sequence....P-R-N-D-L. Even back then, there were too many "incidents" caused by every manufacturer having their own sequence, and if a person went from car to car, it was EASILY confusing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddm2k
This is the interior in question. A 2017 Range Rover. Article did not specify if Sport or any other model, so we can only surmise they meant Range Rover (Full Size). It's a dial:
This is neither an unprecedented control as a shifter, nor confusing to use. It's like a dial on a washing machine.
Both setups automatically apply the parking brake when Park is selected. It cannot be defeated by the driver. If it rolled away, it wasn't in Park.
There are TWO of those "dial shifters" in cars that are in my garage, right now. And as I said previously, they are are about as "fool proof" as you can get, these days, unlike the &&*^%$$ shifter in my Jeep Grand Cherokee. The Jeep's shifter is the epitome of insane, non-tactile, electronics. And FWIW, I had a 1996 Z/28 Camaro, one of the last cars to actually have a mechanical cable, that attached to the transmission. That was a GOOD shifter.....
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I agree, 100% Although I'm not in favor of Government intrusion, I'll say this....Decades ago, mid-60s, I believe, one thing the US Government mandated in cars, is a "standard" automatic transmission shifter sequence....P-R-N-D-L. Even back then, there were too many "incidents" caused by every manufacturer having their own sequence, and if a person went from car to car, it was EASILY confusing.
There are TWO of those "dial shifters" in cars that are in my garage, right now. And as I said previously, they are are about as "fool proof" as you can get, these days, unlike the &&*^%$$ shifter in my Jeep Grand Cherokee. The Jeep's shifter is the epitome of insane, non-tactile, electronics. And FWIW, I had a 1996 Z/28 Camaro, one of the last cars to actually have a mechanical cable, that attached to the transmission. That was a GOOD shifter.....
1. "PRNDL": I think it should have been PRDLN, but that's just me
2. Your Garage: I'll take the Camaro - you can keep the two Star Trek props.
1. "PRNDL": I think it should have been PRDLN, but that's just me
2. Your Garage: I'll take the Camaro - you can keep the two Star Trek props.
Federal regulations require that N be between R and D
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