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The only limitation on Trucks or Van EV is the storage. They can be easily set up to beat torque and such specs versus an ICE. Simply a better traction system.
And the storage problem is well on its way to a solution. With the present batteries in the development process it will be possible to out perform the competitive ICE vehicles on virtually all parameters including those important for towing. It will be pretty much standard by 2025.
So some validity to the towing by EV today. None left by 2025.
I believe that during the winter months it gets very cold in the North central US, Minnesota, North Dakota, and Northwest NY. The question was about the use of an EV heater in places where it gets cold. In such places, the heater has to be used to keep the cabin warm, and also to remove moisture from your breath or from snow melting on the floor mats. It means that the heater has to be used all the time while driving.
Lest face it: EVs are probably great in places where it does not get very cold.
FYI half of all new cars sold in Norway are EVs. Norway is a cold country. It's not a big deal.
I sell fuel for a living and I can tell you a lot of diesel and gasoline is also used for heating (and cooling). When it gets cold we sell a lot more fuel because people idle their vehicles a lot more than than comfortable ambient temperatures. Diesel is also a very poor cold weather fuel and clogged filters due to waxation is a massive problem.
This is our set up, a Model 3 and a 5.7L V8 Land Cruiser for towing and extended trips.
Nice. When my wife's lease came up, last year, there really wasn't much out there that interested us as far as an EV. I wish Tesla offered a nice lease program. She ended up with an Equinox. Hopefully by the time that is ready for turn in, GM will have some good EV offerings. My truck will be paid off by then, so hopefully we can end up with an EV, a truck, and I can get my Challenger.
Nice. When my wife's lease came up, last year, there really wasn't much out there that interested us as far as an EV. I wish Tesla offered a nice lease program. She ended up with an Equinox. Hopefully by the time that is ready for turn in, GM will have some good EV offerings. My truck will be paid off by then, so hopefully we can end up with an EV, a truck, and I can get my Challenger.
Tesla does have a lease program and I'm glad they are not offering cheap leases to just anybody. Leasing cars damage car's resale value, look at BMW, M-B, Audis. There's so much glut of off lease German cars out there.
Nice. When my wife's lease came up, last year, there really wasn't much out there that interested us as far as an EV. I wish Tesla offered a nice lease program. She ended up with an Equinox. Hopefully by the time that is ready for turn in, GM will have some good EV offerings. My truck will be paid off by then, so hopefully we can end up with an EV, a truck, and I can get my Challenger.
We leased the Model 3. It is the first time I have ever leased a car in my life, but I felt like it was a hedge against new technology and competition coming into the space in three years. We are about half way through the term.
Regarding the other poster’s comment on cold weather, I forgot to mention one of my favorite Tesla features during the winter. We plug the car in at night and have it set to be ready to go at 7:30am, when my wife drives the kids to school. The battery and car are warmed up and ready when they get in the car. When the outside temp was -5 this week, she was getting into an 80 degree car. No exhaust means it can warm up in a closed garage. Pretty nice!
Tesla does have a lease program and I'm glad they are not offering cheap leases to just anybody. Leasing cars damage car's resale value, look at BMW, M-B, Audis. There's so much glut of off lease German cars out there.
Like I said, a nice lease program. I refuse to put $5k down on what is basically a rental. I could care less about a cars resale value, especially a lease car.
We leased the Model 3. It is the first time I have ever leased a car in my life, but I felt like it was a hedge against new technology and competition coming into the space in three years. We are about half way through the term.
Regarding the other poster’s comment on cold weather, I forgot to mention one of my favorite Tesla features during the winter. We plug the car in at night and have it set to be ready to go at 7:30am, when my wife drives the kids to school. The battery and car are warmed up and ready when they get in the car. When the outside temp was -5 this week, she was getting into an 80 degree car. No exhaust means it can warm up in a closed garage. Pretty nice!
That is awesome. I'm just not putting $5k or more down on a lease.
FYI half of all new cars sold in Norway are EVs. Norway is a cold country. It's not a big deal.
I sell fuel for a living and I can tell you a lot of diesel and gasoline is also used for heating (and cooling). When it gets cold we sell a lot more fuel because people idle their vehicles a lot more than than comfortable ambient temperatures. Diesel is also a very poor cold weather fuel and clogged filters due to waxation is a massive problem.
The problems you are referring to don't exist in Northern Canada and Alaska. During the winter, the diesel fuel at the pump is very close to #1 heating fuel. All big rigs at the gold and other mines run on diesel fuel, and so tractor trailers, trains, and ships moving people and things between the continental US and Alaska. There aren't electric aircraft, ships, boats, barges, tractor trailers, backhoes, loaders, dump trucks, cranes, draglines, and so on.
Like I said, a nice lease program. I refuse to put $5k down on what is basically a rental. I could care less about a cars resale value, especially a lease car.
but the resale value is how you calculate the cost of the lease.
but the resale value is how you calculate the cost of the lease.
Okay , great.
If you can't tell already, I'm not a fan of leasing...my wife is. So, I purchase my vehicle, she leases hers. She picks a payment , with the least amount down, and searches for a vehicle. She's had two Cadillac's and now an Equinox.
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