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Absurd thread. Look at every vehicle on the road next time you're out, replace 50% of those with EVs in only 9 years?
I don't think so.
What an absurd response, We aren't talking about replacing 50% of all vehicles on the road, that'll take decades. The title of the thread says 50% of all NEW CAR SALES, which is a different ball of wax. It means 50% of the 17 million cars sold NEW will be EVs, which is going to be easy to achieve in this decade as we are already ramping up the number of EVs available at a rapid pace. Notice that's not 50% of the 280 million cars on the road. But I know, math and reading are hard for you.
Saw my first polestar on the road today. Guy was driving pretty aggressively so I only saw it from behind. Looked kinda weird with a boxy top of the rear end.
What an absurd response, We aren't talking about replacing 50% of all vehicles on the road, that'll take decades. The title of the thread says 50% of all NEW CAR SALES, which is a different ball of wax. It means 50% of the 17 million cars sold NEW will be EVs, which is going to be easy to achieve in this decade as we are already ramping up the number of EVs available at a rapid pace. Notice that's not 50% of the 280 million cars on the road. But I know, math and reading are hard for you.
Oh yeah it's the guy who drives multiple reliable 25yo V-12 BMWs, Mister credibility. At least I'm not a liar.
You haven't mentioned those lately and now seem to be an EV fan boy.
Okay then....50% of new car sales in 2030 is equally absurd, not gonna happen.
They are being forced on us and Americans don't do too well with it when Uncle Sam starts poking around. That's just how our country is, glorious.
It's being pushed on me and I don't like it. I don't like President Gerberface telling me I should probably buy one.
How has it been pushed on you? Have you actually felt any legitimate pressure to buy an EV? I doubt that you pay that close attention to what President Gerberface tells you.
I know very few people personally who own an EV. I have a feeling that if I asked all of the ICE owners that I know, none of them would tell me that they are feeling pressure to buy an EV.
"Brandon", led by his handlers, is TELLING you that by mandate, in another 8-10 years, auto manufacturers will be REQUIRED to produce a certain number (percentage) of EVs. Remember the famous phrase, from 12 years ago, "We're going to fundamentally change America"?? Look around, it's happening, just like they said they were going to......
Electricity rates may rise in some areas, for some time, but capacity is not fixed. As EV usage grows, utilities will need to add more capacity, as they have always done - the power generation capacity in the US has risen steadily for 100 years. The idea that for some reason power companies will cease to be able to provide more capacity all of a sudden - I don't know where that comes from, but many people (wrongly) assume that.
Next generation tandem solar panels using perovskite and silicon layers are under commercial development. They will add significantly to efficiency without commensurate increases in cost. They can build them in other countries beyond China. See for example,
this American company: https://cubicpv.com/
...and this British company: https://www.oxfordpv.com/
California has already built desalination plants, including the largest one in the Western Hemisphere: https://www.carlsbaddesal.com/
...and more are already under development, for example, the next big one at Huntington Beach: https://www.hbfreshwater.com/
Nuclear is going to have to be embraced if we want to increase capacity without dramatically increasing fossil fuel use. Solar and wind are both expensive and intermittent, especially if you are honest enough to figure in the cost of the backup capacity when it's dark or the wind isn't blowing. And of course the instability of the output risks the stability of our grid. In addition to generation, distribution systems are going to have to increase. But-it's a lot easier to string wires and generate power, than to develop new oil fields, refineries, pipelines, gas stations, etc, etc. Thing is, since power systems are so tied into governmental organizations rather than private industry, it's falling way behind. IF we do hit 50% EV sales in only 9 years, and keep doing nothing about the generation and distribution issues...we're screwed. Hopefully Musk will develop nuclear power plants in his spare time-for sure the government bureaucrats that have been piddling with them for 70 years will never actually accomplish anything.
Nuclear is going to have to be embraced if we want to increase capacity without dramatically increasing fossil fuel use.
It looks like the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station will help Arizona make EVs in that state more affordable by providing emission free electricity. Oregon and Washington have hydroelectric
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