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Wondering how long a battery will hold a charge without being used. For example, if one is away for three months, will the charger “trickle” safely and indefinitely?
Wondering how long a battery will hold a charge without being used. For example, if one is away for three months, will the charger “trickle” safely and indefinitely?
I wouldn't trust that. Though letting it go dead completely is probably just as bad for it
No, the new refreshed GMC Sierra that can tow a boat (or whatever) hands free including lane change from NY to LA as long as you keep your eyes mostly straight ahead. Oh, and said truck being towed by a Corvette V8...not fed by batteries.
Far more impressive to me than some stupid EV Hummer.
Far more impressive to me than some stupid EV Hummer.
Well the problem is that what impresses you may not matter to regulators. The #1 issue is grams of carbon dioxide per mile. If you look at the list of 2022 light vehicles that produce over 600 grams you only see supercars and high end trucks.
Carbon Dioxide grams per mile
979 2022 Volkswagen Group of Bugatti Chiron Pur Sport
979 2022 Volkswagen Group of Bugatti Chiron Super Sport
840 2022 Volkswagen Group of Bugatti Chiron
802 2022 Volkswagen Group of Lamborghini Aventador Coupe
748 2022 FCA US LLC RAM 1500 TRX 4x4
665 2022 Ferrari North America, Inc. 812 GTS
652 2022 Ferrari North America, Inc. 812 Competizione
636 2022 Volkswagen Group of Bentley Continental GT Speed Convertible
624 2022 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Ghost
624 2022 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Ghost Black Badge
624 2022 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Ghost Extended
623 2022 FCA US LLC Jeep Wrangler 4dr 4X4
620 2022 General Motors GMC SIERRA 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
619 2022 General Motors Chevrolet SILVERADO 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
618 2022 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Cullinan
618 2022 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Cullinan Black Badge
618 2022 TOYOTA SEQUOIA 4WD
617 2022 Volkswagen Group of Lamborghini Urus
616 2022 Volkswagen Group of Bentley Bentayga Speed
615 2022 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Phantom
615 2022 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Phantom Extended
610 2022 Volkswagen Group of Bentley Continental GT Speed
610 2022 General Motors Chevrolet SILVERADO 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
610 2022 General Motors GMC SIERRA 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
604 2022 TOYOTA SEQUOIA 2WD
602 2022 FCA US LLC Jeep Grand Wagoneer 4x4
601 2022 Volkswagen Group of Bentley Flying Spur
They favor hybrids that produce very low carbon dioxide. These hybrids produce less than 200 grams per mile.
195 2022 TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID SE/XLE/XSE
189 2022 HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY Sonata Hybrid
186 2022 Honda ACCORD
184 2022 Honda INSIGHT TOURING
183 2022 KIA Niro
179 2022 TOYOTA PRIUS AWD
179 2022 KIA Niro FE
177 2022 HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY Elantra Hybrid
172 2022 HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY Sonata Hybrid Blue
170 2022 TOYOTA COROLLA HYBRID
170 2022 Honda INSIGHT
170 2022 TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID LE
170 2022 TOYOTA PRIUS
165 2022 HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY Elantra Hybrid Blue
162 2022 HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY Ioniq
158 2022 TOYOTA PRIUS Eco
151 2022 HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY Ioniq Blue
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The Government is driving, pardon the pun, this head long, mis-directed rush to electric vehicles. Anyone with any sense, understands that the electric grid, currently, pardon another pun, isn't yet robust enough to take care of the increased load that will be generated by having to re-charge all of those EVs....
Meh.
I cannot wait to get an EV. I am not a huge car enthusiast. All I care about is driving from point A to point B and not having to worry about maintenance. The fact that when I own an EV I'll never have to do oil changes, spark plug changes, transmission fluid changes, etc. etc. is very appealing. Never having to do brake changes until 100k+ miles for an EV vs every 40k miles or so with an ICE is another huge plus for owning an EV.
These days, solar panels are becoming more and more affordable, and solar panels can often add value to a property over the long run. Switching to electric heat, EVs, and saving money on AC while all using solar panels is also quite appealing.
You know what else people can't tolerate? Oil shocks and gas prices skyrocketing to $5/gallon when there's trouble in the Middle East or some geopolitical shock for the 1000000th time.
People fear mongered when electricity first came out - that power lines would cause all sorts of health problems and shouldn't be allowed. How laughable is this article from 1900:
We were pleased, years back, to see electric bells made available to area businesses in need of alarms to protect goods from theft and fire. Here, at last, was a use above reproach, but progress waits for no man. Today we see that Trafton & Sons of 36 Congress Street are advertising electric light wiring for business and for homes. Electrified stores and electrified street lamps we can applaud -- but electrified homes? To date, thanks to the "shocking" cost of power from the Rockingham Electric Light and Power Company on Daniel Street near the ferry to Kittery, few residents can afford the conversion from the dependability of gas. But to see the future, a local pundit informs me, one need only walk down Water Street at night where the incandescent glow of electrical lights beckon hapless sailors from across the Piscataqua to visit houses of adult entertainment. Vice and corruption, it seems, have deep pockets. Electricity is the new Jezebel, seducing our young men into the arms of immorality.
People also said we'd never have high speed internet, because there's no way that infrastructure could keep up with demand. Yet here we are today where we'd laugh at the idea of still using a 28.8 kbps dial up modem. There will always be naysayers, but there is a giant growing demand for EVs. Count me in that crowd.
Well the problem is that what impresses you may not matter to regulators. The #1 issue is grams of carbon dioxide per mile. If you look at the list of 2022 light vehicles that produce over 600 grams you only see supercars and high end trucks.[/list]
Do you have any comprehension how many "high end trucks" are sold in this country each year?
I could not care less about some treehugger list, neither do millions of others either.. My LX570 is at the bottom of one of those, all that does is make me smile a little more every time I hear the 5.7 V8 grumble or snort at me while shoving me back in my seat.
Do you have any comprehension how many "high end trucks" are sold in this country each year?
I could not care less about some treehugger list, neither do millions of others either.. My LX570 is at the bottom of one of those, all that does is make me smile a little more every time I hear the 5.7 V8 grumble or snort at me while shoving me back in my seat.
Yea, the V8 has to grumble pretty hard and it still won't have anywhere near the power delivery of a Rivian R1S or the GMC Hummer. It struggles really hard to do things that EVs do with ease. The LX570 and its 5.7 V8 is incredibly weak compared to the powertrains of either the R1S or the Hummer, and it's not even remotely close. It has 381 hp and struggles to deliver its 401 lb⋅ft of torque as it wheezes its way to what? To nothing even close to approaching what the R1S or the Hummer have. The R1S has over 800 hp and over 900 ft⋅lb of torque and that torque is available from the get-go. The Hummer is 1,000 hp with over 1,000 ft⋅lb of torque. The Lexus and its V8 is very much in a different, much lower class. The comparisons to ICE are likely to only get worse from here on out as certainly much more powerful motors are available. The probably greater limiting factor is actually the batteries, but battery improvements have been pretty rapid over the past several decades, and thus far it would seem unlikely that this decade will deviate strongly from that. Even as it is now, it's a different ballpark of performance. This is what the major league is like:
It makes no sense to argue about EV motor power versus ICE V8 motor power. ICE technology has been around for a long time, and improved from year to year, while modern EV technology is fairly new. What really matters is the drive-mile range the vehicle is capable of, not the amount of power delivered to the wheels. Keep in mind that I am referring to trucks with V8 motors versus electric trucks and their respective weights and aerodynamics.
Now, assuming that these trucks can be driven on a race track at full speed, the EV will reach a certain point in a shorter period of time, but eventually the ICE truck will surpass the travel distance of the EV because of its greater fuel density. For drag racing an EV would be ideal, I imagine.
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