Coronavirus (Sacramento: regulations, progressive, coverage)

[looker009]

Originally Posted by saibot

I was interested and amused to see different enforcement of the same policy in different areas of the same county. To be specific, I went to two Orange County beaches (Laguna Beach and Dana Point) at the same time of the day last week. Both have signs around stating "active use only, no sitting/loitering."

At Laguna's Main beach, the boardwalk and parks were gated off with only intermittent breaks for access to the sand. Lifeguards were patrolling, informing people that they had to stay off the boardwalk, couldn't sit on their towels, etc. The people on the beach were moving frenetically, apparently afraid they'd be kicked out if they stopped for a moment.

At Dana Point, there were beach towels and umbrellas everywhere, with people relaxing, reading magazines, having picnics, and taking it easy. The lifeguards ignored them. Every once in a while they would drive a cart down to the tide pools to tell people it was a conservation area and removing marine life or shells is not permitted, but they couldn't have cared less that people were passively using the beach.

It was incredibly refreshing to be in a place that looked and felt normal. No masks, everyone happily enjoying the open air. For several hours I even forgot that I'm now "supposed" to be scared of unmasked people.

Last time I checked, lifeguards are not cops and have no power to enforce anything.

[saibot]

Originally Posted by looker009

Last time I checked, lifeguards are not cops and have no power to enforce anything.

I don't know what if anything they would do if people refused to comply, but in Laguna at any rate, the lifeguards were trying to get them to comply.

[wac_432]

Santa Barbara beaches are great. No patrols, just a sign about social distancing (that everyone ignores). No masks. Plenty of parking. Sunny and warm.

Ventura cops are all over the place, plus the locals are slashing tires and busting windows like the old days. If you want some peaceful fun-in-the-sun, don't stop in Ventura, keep going north until you get to Santa Barbara.

[Mike930]

The governor just relaxed some restrictions so more of the state can start reopening.

“The new criteria eliminates requirements that a county have zero deaths and no more than than one case per 10,000 residents over a two-week period. Instead, counties must have no more than 25 cases per 100,000 residents or no higher than an 8% positive rate among people testing for the coronavirus. They also must have no higher than a 5% increase in hospitalizations over a 7-day period or fewer than 20 hospitalizations total over 14 days. The latter will ensure small counties don’t get penalized for just one or two extra hospitalizations.

Newsom also said counties will soon be able to allow shopping in stores and hair salons to reopen. He also suggested professional sports could begin in June without spectators. He said the reopening of churches could begin within weeks.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wtop.co...ent-sites/amp/

[looker009]

Originally Posted by Mike930

The governor just relaxed some restrictions so more of the state can start reopening.

“The new criteria eliminates requirements that a county have zero deaths and no more than than one case per 10,000 residents over a two-week period. Instead, counties must have no more than 25 cases per 100,000 residents or no higher than an 8% positive rate among people testing for the coronavirus. They also must have no higher than a 5% increase in hospitalizations over a 7-day period or fewer than 20 hospitalizations total over 14 days. The latter will ensure small counties don’t get penalized for just one or two extra hospitalizations.

Newsom also said counties will soon be able to allow shopping in stores and hair salons to reopen. He also suggested professional sports could begin in June without spectators. He said the reopening of churches could begin within weeks.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wtop.co...ent-sites/amp/

Basically he is feeling the pressure to reopen being rest of the country is way ahead of California. Originally i think they were thinking no sports at all until Thanksgiving.

[saibot]

Originally Posted by looker009

Basically he is feeling the pressure to reopen being rest of the country is way ahead of California. Originally i think they were thinking no sports at all until Thanksgiving.

One of the frustrating things to me is that planners have been pressured to decide whether or not to cancel events that are still relatively far in the future. So, for instance, many schools have announced that fall classes will be online; the LA County fair scheduled for September has been canceled, and so on. It's depressing thinking that even as we "reopen," everything as far out as three, four or more months from now is already canceled.

[AFtrEFkt]

Originally Posted by Mike930

The governor just relaxed some restrictions so more of the state can start reopening.

“The new criteria eliminates requirements that a county have zero deaths and no more than than one case per 10,000 residents over a two-week period. Instead, counties must have no more than 25 cases per 100,000 residents or no higher than an 8% positive rate among people testing for the coronavirus. They also must have no higher than a 5% increase in hospitalizations over a 7-day period or fewer than 20 hospitalizations total over 14 days. The latter will ensure small counties don’t get penalized for just one or two extra hospitalizations.

Newsom also said counties will soon be able to allow shopping in stores and hair salons to reopen. He also suggested professional sports could begin in June without spectators. He said the reopening of churches could begin within weeks.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wtop.co...ent-sites/amp/

Not surprised that was eased. With all deaths being recorded as "...Covid-19," regardless of the actual cause, that was going to be a virtually impossible hurdle to leap over.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by looker009

Basically he is feeling the pressure to reopen being rest of the country is way ahead of California. Originally i think they were thinking no sports at all until Thanksgiving.

I think that most of what California is doing is based on science. not pressure to be like some other state.

[looker009]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I think that most of what California is doing is based on science. not pressure to be like some other state.

There is only so long they can do it base on science. When rest of the country opens much more, citizens are not going to tolerate their government restricting their movement. As it's i am not seeing many people following mask rule outside as required by LA County.

[CA4Now]

Georgia both COVID deaths and cases continue to be rapidly decreasing....but you can't explain the facts to the sheep

Georgia governor forced to apologize for releasing fake numbers on infections:
https://americanindependent.com/bria...rnor-covid-19/

Georgia’s coronavirus data made reopening look safe. The numbers were a lie:
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...ata-brian-kemp

GA Gov Brian Kemp apologizes after state Health Department chart wrongly shows downward trend in COVID-19 infections:
https://www.alternet.org/2020/05/its...19-infections/