Newsom eradicating sales of new gas powered cars by 2035 (Los Angeles: utilities, rail)

[Bill the Butcher]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

whoops


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/127499...-connectivity/

I assume owners were able to at least drive the vehicle with the system down? If so, doesn't seem like a big deal. If not, seems like a major design flaw.

[looker009]

Originally Posted by Bill the Butcher

I assume owners were able to at least drive the vehicle with the system down? If so, doesn't seem like a big deal. If not, seems like a major design flaw.

Yes it's not needed for driving .

[Bill the Butcher]

Originally Posted by looker009

Yes i can see 25% but for sure we will not see 100% new cars being non gas vehicle. It's not realistic dream.

I could see the growth being exponential. Might take us 10 years to go from 6% to 25%. But then only 5 years to go from 25% to 50%. So in 2035 you might have a mix of half the cars on the road being EV's and half being ICE. And I guess 100% new sales being EV's.

Still not sure how they would regulate new ICE vehicles being bought out of state though.

[looker009]

Originally Posted by Bill the Butcher

I could see the growth being exponential. Might take us 10 years to go from 6% to 25%. But then only 5 years to go from 25% to 50%. So in 2035 you might have a mix of half the cars on the road being EV's and half being ICE. And I guess 100% new sales being EV's.

Still not sure how they would regulate new ICE vehicles being bought out of state though.

Regulating new vehicle being bought out of state might be easy, they can declare that no vehicle that been produced after 2035 can be registered in the state.



Regarding going from 25-20% etc i am not seeing that happening. The biggest issue is infrastructure, how do you get people to charge their vehicles that do not live in condo/SFH etc. The charging would also need to be much, much faster. Now i believe it takes Tesla at Super Charge around 35-40 in to get to 80% charge, that is way too long. It needs to be done at 5-10 min max. As it's California have issue with electricity during peak times like when it's heatwave going on, imagine heatwave plus all of the electrical vehicle charging at the same time.



It might be a nice goal, but it's really just that a goal which is nothing but political.

[albert648]

Originally Posted by Bill the Butcher

Still not sure how they would regulate new ICE vehicles being bought out of state though.

Short answer - they can't. The end. The State of California literally has no jurisdiction over a transaction that happens entirely out of state.

I personally have zero faith in Newsom's ability to get necessary power production and distribution infrastructure provisioned....he couldn't even get poop cleaned up off the streets of San Francisco.

[looker009]

Originally Posted by albert648

Short answer - they can't. The end. The State of California literally has no jurisdiction over a transaction that happens entirely out of state.

Automakers like to have one standard. If enough states adapt California standard, there will be a push toward electric vehicle but consumer will make the final decision.

[Bill the Butcher]

Originally Posted by albert648

Short answer - they can't. The end. The State of California literally has no jurisdiction over a transaction that happens entirely out of state.

I personally have zero faith in Newsom's ability to get necessary power production and distribution infrastructure provisioned....he couldn't even get poop cleaned up off the streets of San Francisco.

But what about car registration? Can't they put whatever fees they feel are necessary on there? I could definitely see them tacking on a $500-$1000 per year ICE vehicle fee for any ICE vehicle 2035 or newer.

[Redflag71]

Originally Posted by looker009

Regulating new vehicle being bought out of state might be easy, they can declare that no vehicle that been produced after 2035 can be registered in the state.



Regarding going from 25-20% etc i am not seeing that happening. The biggest issue is infrastructure, how do you get people to charge their vehicles that do not live in condo/SFH etc. The charging would also need to be much, much faster. Now i believe it takes Tesla at Super Charge around 35-40 in to get to 80% charge, that is way too long. It needs to be done at 5-10 min max. As it's California have issue with electricity during peak times like when it's heatwave going on, imagine heatwave plus all of the electrical vehicle charging at the same time.



It might be a nice goal, but it's really just that a goal which is nothing but political.

Well said. It is just a plan/goal for 15 years from now. He will not be in charge anymore.

[janellen]

Originally Posted by Mike930 That’s it. I’m leaving California. I’ll come back to this forum in 2035 to mock all of you that stayed.

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

And where would this utopia you're seeking be?

1AngryTaxPayer=Same place I'm heading with my pension. North of Austin in the hill country. I'll probably go to the beach more if I come back on vacation. I've been here 38 years and time for a change. We already have family and friends there.

Looks good to me.


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[Mike930]

Originally Posted by janellen

Looks good to me.


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Hmmm. So Utopia DOES exist and it’s in Texas!