Newsom eradicating sales of new gas powered cars by 2035 (to rent, homes)

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

And where would this utopia you're seeking be?

Same place I'm heading with my pension. North of Austin in the hill country. I'll probably go to the beach more if I come back on vacation. I've been here 38 years and time for a change. We already have family and friends there.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by Finper

Is Newsom planning on being governor in 15 years? Can he place a order and it will have to be enforced when he’s retired and living on his winery if he’s not run out of the state?

The order isn't binding without legislative input. Basically this just lays out a framework for them to use. That's why it's filled with lot's of weasel wording like "where feasible" and such. It's still overly optimistic no matter how you slice it. As I said, passenger cars aren't the big hurdle. We already that to some degree. It's the big stuff that's vital to our infrastructure which aren't as easily replaced with electric variants.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

And where would this utopia you're seeking be?

Jerry Brown is that you???

[ZeApelido]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Nope. That's incorrect.

It's all inclusive. Medium duty, heavy duty and off-highway equipment.
Read the E/O.


Show me a comparable electric grader, scraper or dozer to any of the diesel powered ones we currently use.

Are you betting there will not be comparables in 15 years?

[ZeApelido]

Originally Posted by mgforshort

Electric cars are great. So is Pepto Bismol. But please, please, don't stick it down my throat until I'm asking for it.

Some would say the same for unnecessary pollutants generated by gas cars.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Same place I'm heading with my pension. North of Austin in the hill country. I'll probably go to the beach more if I come back on vacation. I've been here 38 years and time for a change. We already have family and friends there.

I like Austin, although its gotten quite expensive as well. Also, if you don't like liberal policies, you probably won't like the leadership in Austin. However, as you mention, you can go to a rural area outside of the city and probably get the price and politics that you like.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by Finper

Jerry Brown is that you???

I'm just saying that every place has its issues. Its a trade off wherever you go.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

I like Austin, although its gotten quite expensive as well. Also, if you don't like liberal policies, you probably won't like the leadership in Austin. However, as you mention, you can go to a rural area outside of the city and probably get the price and politics that you like.

The thing is, an Austin liberal is pretty close to a conservative here in CA. Nothing is as expensive as here so we'll still have big money left over after selling. Friends just bought a few years old house 2000 sq feet near a lake for less than 200 grand. Insane.

[DKM]

Britain aka the UK already has the same plan, more or less. We'll see, 2035 is a long ways away.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

The thing is, an Austin liberal is pretty close to a conservative here in CA. Nothing is as expensive as here so we'll still have big money left over after selling. Friends just bought a few years old house 2000 sq feet near a lake for less than 200 grand. Insane.

How far out is that? Some of the homes near the city (lake Austin) are well into the millions. We looked a few years ago at Steiner Ranch and there is some good value there, although the commute wasn't great (not any worse than here in the Bay Area though).