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Old 02-22-2012, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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Something will kill you, quit worrying about what it might possibly be and enjoy life. Oh, and by the way, when you go, what is your legacy?
Something will kill you, but cancer and other illnesses caused by radiation mean you die a slow and painful death. So how close is that fault line?
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:55 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Something will kill you, but cancer and other illnesses caused by radiation mean you die a slow and painful death. So how close is that fault line?
I cannot see the sense in worrying about stuff. Get out side and have a life, while you have it.
California is riddles by faultlines. More people have been killed by earthquakes in San Luis Obispo County since Diablo Canyon was put in than have been killed by nuke plants in America, ever.

We like to fear nuke plants because radiation is an invisible boogeyman. Coal plants are far more dangerous, and kill far more people than nukular.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Quimper Peninsula
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I have worked in a nuclear facility and there is no reason why, with enormous expenditures, they cannot be made reasonably safe. In California, however, with abundant wind, water and solar energy, there is absolutely NO reason to build nuke plants and those remaining should be decommissioned ASAP. Even getting rid of them is a hassle. We have a defunct nuke plant on Humboldt Bay which was taken offline years ago because of its location above a major fault (nice going, PG&E) and the spent rods, sealed in concrete, are going to be there forever because no one can figure out a safe way to transport them to Yucca Flats or wherever. They apparently don't represent a hazard at this point but I personally wouldn't buy a house within a hundred miles of a nuke plant as long as private corporations are in charge.
Well said, I tend to agree. IMO Nuke should be national. I personally am pro non fossil fuel energy... (Which means Nuke has a place.) But so do Solar, Wind, Hydro and others..

After Japan, I must say I am a bit shaken.. The Japanese were prepared, and look what happened...

With that said, I place the risk of living near a Nuke plant anywhere on about the same level of a risk I place on living next to missile silo's or other prime targets in all out Nuclear war...

Just my 2 cents..
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:45 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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California's nuke plant is newer and better equipped than the older Japanese nuke plant..
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:43 PM
 
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This just in - less than an hour ago: Another problem with a California nuclear power plant! Feds probe equipment failure at Calif. nuke plant - Yahoo! News

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A nuclear reactor on the California coast will remain shut down indefinitely while a team of federal inspectors determines why several relatively new tubes became so frail that tests found they could rupture and release radioactive water, a federal official said Thursday.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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Three things:

1. Make sure you address this one, because it's my primary concern: Do people who live near nuclear power plants have higher cancer/sickness rates, even if there is no meltdown? You can compare this to living near power lines. Studies?

2. Do you remember how our "superior" American bridges collapsed and killed dozens of people?

3. How about our country's two tallest towers imploding and killing over 3,000 people?
Apparently I missed this, so I'll now answer them, albeit 3 years late:

1. I dunno. I lived near San Onofre for decades, and so far (in my 6th decade) I'm cancer and anomaly free.

2. I know of one in particular, the one in MN. That seems to be a lack of maintenance thing. They ignored reported problems, and paid for it in lives.

3. This one is so asinine, I refuse to address it lest my IQ drops to the level of its author.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:41 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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It's not just offshore that contamination spread. I avidly followed the news in the months afterward, and to say the Japanese govt covered up the situation is an understatement. There was enough radiation to cause condemning of large herds of cattle and several types of vegetables from the region (both by the Japanese govt and by other nations refusing their exports). There was some radiation sickness in the plant workers, and a couple deaths from it (attributed to vague other causes). The evacuation zone was quite large, and the offshore US fleet in that region bugged out.

Interestingly enough, places as far away as Massachusetts found a small but significant dose in their rainfall, and very small amounts ended up in California Bay Area milk.

The Japanese were extremely lucky because of the weather patterns - most of it blew out to sea. Only a tiny amount of radiation actually hit Tokyo, but had the wind shifted on certain days, it's possible that Tokyo might have had to evacuate.

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The Nuclear Regulatory Commission's estimate of the risk each year of an earthquake intense enough to cause core damage to the reactor at Diablo Canyon was 1 in 23,810, according to an NRC study published in August 2010.[17][18] In April 2011, in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear incident in Japan, PG&E asked the NRC not to issue license renewals until PG&E can complete new seismic studies, which are expected to take at least three years
Would I live there? Yes, if I could afford to do so. But then I probably don't have much of a life ahead of me, so wouldn't particularly care about that danger. I wouldn't bring a family to live there though.

Last edited by Woof; 03-16-2012 at 07:51 PM.. Reason: corrected info about the plant
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:06 AM
 
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Exactly. It amazes me at how dismissively ignorant some people are.

"Oh, that was a maintenance issue."

"Oh, that was human error."

"Oh, that was an oversight paid for with human lives."

"Those things may happen overseas, and even in our own country, but they would never happen in Diablo Canyon."

"By the way, I am free of health problems, or so I think, so every other person must be as well. The experience of one can be extrapolated to the population as a whole."
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:02 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Worrying about nuke hazards is fairly pointless



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The American Lung Association (ALA) recently released a new report on the dramatic health hazards surrounding coal-fired power plants.


“Coal-fired power plants that sell electricity to the grid produce more hazardous air pollution in the U.S. than any other industrial pollution sources.” According to the report details, over 386,000 tons of air pollutants are emitted from over 400 plants in the U.S. per year. Interestingly, while most of the power plants are located in the Midwest and Southeast, the entire nation is threatened by their toxic emissions.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Police State
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This just in - less than an hour ago: Another problem with a California nuclear power plant! Feds probe equipment failure at Calif. nuke plant - Yahoo! News
Doesn't the fact that it was caught means that the system worked?
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