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I remember Michelle Kwan, the American figure skater, born and raise in the US, had to say "I love America" every time, trying so hard to convince Americans that she is 100% American. A white American will never bother doing that. I don't understand why a Chinese American is considered less an American than one with Irish origin.
We can deny that but in many Americans' mind, an Asian American is somewhat less authentic American.
In Canada, it is the same mentality. I remember Carol Huynh, the first Canadian gold medalist in the 2008 Olympics, was featured at the very bottom of an ariticle in MaCleans magazine, below those silver and bronze medalists. Why? because she is Asian, and most don't feel as proud about an Asian Canadian winning gold as if it were a white Canadian. Canada only won 3 golds in 2008, and she was put near the bottom of it? Are you kidding?
Canadians as a whole even the Natives and immigrants are a racist bunch. In my travels through Canada it I found it striking that Canada is even more racist than the American south.
Canadians as a whole even the Natives and immigrants are a racist bunch. In my travels through Canada it I found it striking that Canada is even more racist than the American south.
Help us here, you're either an "it" or an "I" which is it?
Buuuullcraaaap! There is nowhere else on the planet as racist as the American south.
There is that what you were looking for? We can begin now.
Buuuullcraaaap! There is nowhere else on the planet as racist as the American south.
It must be getting close to the time when you're leaving for your 6-month stay in the American South, isn't it BruSan? Or are you there already?
How do you manage to stand all that racism? If I found a place to be the most racist "on the planet," I probably wouldn't want to go there at all, let alone spend 6 months there. There's no way I'd want to support a place like that by giving it my hard-earned money. I'd much rather spend my valuable time and retirement funds in a place where I think people are treated more equitably.
I would like to know how Mouldy perceives racism in the south. If that is an indiscreet question, please ignore it. I am genuinely curious as to his perceptions, being from Mississippi. I am not interested in debating them. He has been on this forum long enough to have gotten a sense of how we perceive ourselves and what individuals perceive of the south and personal experiences are of course, subjective.
I think the south has a very unfair and outdated reputation, not just by Canadians but by Americans in other parts of the country and people across the world based on what they see in on TV. I think there is also a big difference where you are in the South. I have family in Atlanta and have been 10+ times and have been to NC, Texas, Alabama and Louisiana off the top of my head. I find the bigger cities like Atlanta and Houston aren't that much different from bigger cities in North America - lots of different ethnicities and cuisines, interracial couples, strong gay scenes, artsy and musical, and quite industrialized and wealthy - these aren't not poor, backwards southern towns. In fact, the level of diversity in Texas isn't worlds behind what you'll see in NYC or Cali or Tor/Van.
The less industrialized states like the notorious "Mississippi" might be different but I haven't spent too much time in them. I would think they are more modern that what they credit for but there may be some stereotypes that still linger due to history. I too would love Moudly to chime in
I have been to small town Alabama for a 1.5-week assignment and although it wasn't very cosmopolitan like the bigger cities, I found the people to be extremely friendly and nice (I'm half white and half Asian but get mistaken for Hispanic a lot). Several locals were open to chatting at the restaurants and bars and seemed very interested in my story as a Canadian from immigrants living in NYC (at the time). Although it was bit slow and not a very industrialized town, I remember it being a very hospitable - with the best BBQ I've ever had!
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From what "black" Americans tell me, Canadians claim not be racist with their words, but are very racist in action. Perhaps this is why the upper echelons of Canadian society are white dominated while Americans are much more mixed. Asian Americans for example are extremely successful, but in Canada they are frowned upon as trouble makers.
It must be getting close to the time when you're leaving for your 6-month stay in the American South, isn't it BruSan? Or are you there already?
How do you manage to stand all that racism? If I found a place to be the most racist "on the planet," I probably wouldn't want to go there at all, let alone spend 6 months there. There's no way I'd want to support a place like that by giving it my hard-earned money. I'd much rather spend my valuable time and retirement funds in a place where I think people are treated more equitably.
How ya doin Dixiechick?
I should have used the sarcasm emoticon of rolling eyes after that particular line that offends you but I would have thought the rest of the post would have made perfectly clear I was giving the poster what they sought to get the crappola rolling.
As I've said many times I love the south.
I've also spent time in the RCN with some black guys from Halifax who could tell you some tales of Canadian racism that would curdle your cream. There is not, nor has there ever been, a shortage of racism in Canada. The only marked difference in the two histories is the issue of slavery but even that is not as clear cut.
There's even an example of an aboriginal chief selling land grants given to his people back to the Crown so he could build a mansion and farm and staff it with escaped black slaves from the south; his name was Joseph Brant.
Given the history of racism in the U.S. and the exposure of many Canadians to it via the media, many Canadians are hyper-conscious about not replicating the specific forms of racism that the U.S. is infamous for. The relative absence of many of the U.S.-famous forms of racism in Canada does not mean Canadians cannot be racist in other ways though. They are humans like everyone else, after all.
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We can begin now. 
