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Old 02-08-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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I don't want to be an American citizen, Ivoc. I'm happy with the status quo.
And I am never going to be a Canadian.

But when my wife came to the US moving between our countries was very simple. She was in fact sponsored by a Candy Store Owner who sponsored hundreds of Canadians.

Practicality...My wife's cousin Jan...from Sask...would easily work out well moving down here to the SW US most of the year. She could help us remain free of using services. But she can't stay here more than 6 months and her medical has to be handled outside the system...Why would both countries not allow us OFs to cluster together for efficiency in our old age?

To be truthful in the big picture you Canadians are kind of an afterthought. But if we actually thought about it and did it with though it might be useful to both countries.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Okay CDers, it's official. We've been trolled and we've been trolled good.


OK, seriously dude? You can phucc off now.

You're "oh so tolerant" and yet, anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a troll.


I could call you a liar about who you are as well but the problem is that with you hating your country and all, I do believe you are from Quebec.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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Saturno: "I'm an avid gun collector, I go regularly to the range to spend fun time and there are people from all walk of life"

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I don't know what YOU define a law-abiding gun nut as, but I define them as someone who collects guns for shizz and giggles, yes.

"Gun nut" is a pejorative label, especially considering your ideological background....you could have said "gun enthusiast".

I think I should take you shooting sometimes...you may discover it's a lot of fun....
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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They don't work harder than Americans do, but on the racism, OK, point taken.

I still think I would prefer it though overall. Just based on my experience with Aussies on 2-year Visas (huuuuuuuge ex-pat culture there), and Americans, 2/3rds of whom do not own a passport.
I'm sorry, I don't buy your story for a millisecond.

You are a militant, black, feminist, socialist, anti-American zealot who is strongly against racism and competitiveness, so you would move to Australia? Something there doesn't add up at all. Not even close. For anyone with your set of militant beliefs the USA should be the promised land compared to Australia.

Look you don't have to love the US, I have my problems with it, but you are sounding more and more like either someone who is bat**** crazy or having a field day trolling. I'm positive at this point it's the latter.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Nobody forces you to work harder in America..if you do you get perks...


Let me tell you something from someone that actually lived in 5 different countries.

I was born and raised in Europe, that is m culture, that is what I call home.

To me Canada manages, socially, to get the worst of two worlds (Europe and USA).

Low wages as Europe but without the western European social perks (vacation, job security, etc...)

If I want to go for the low wages and less meritocracy I rather get the other sweeter side of the deal as well and stay in Europe....


And that is your opinion, to which you are entitled. I do like the healthcare system in France, but I'm not willing to spend upwards of 50% of my paycheck in taxes towards it.

As it is, I think Germany has the best healthcare system, actually. I don't think Canada's is the best.

I never claimed Canada was the best country in all respects. I claimed, for the 50th time, that we have our own sovereign culture and we are entitled to it.

Why that is so grossly offensive to you I can only assume is because you're a globalist who stands to profit off such an arrangement.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:16 PM
 
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I'm sorry, I don't buy your story for a millisecond.

You are a militant, black, feminist, socialist, anti-American zealot who is strongly against racism and competitiveness, so you would move to Australia? Something there doesn't add up at all. Not even close. For anyone with your set of militant beliefs the USA should be the promised land compared to Australia.

Look you don't have to love the US, I have my problems with it, but you are sounding more and more like either someone who is bat**** crazy or having a field day trolling. I'm positive at this point it's the latter.


....not to mention the fact Australia has still a lot to do when it comes to women equality and "glass ceiling"....our friend Torontocheka would feel at home there for sure......
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I'm sorry, I don't buy your story for a millisecond.

You are a militant, black, feminist, socialist, anti-American zealot who is strongly against racism and competitiveness, so you would move to Australia? Something there doesn't add up at all. Not even close. For anyone with your set of militant beliefs the USA should be the promised land compared to Australia.

Look you don't have to love the US, I have my problems with it, but you are sounding more and more like either someone who is bat**** crazy or having a field day trolling. I'm positive at this point it's the latter.

What is your full name PBeauchamp? Assuming you are actually proud to stand behind the things you've said here, you should be willing to provide it and I will happily do the same.

I am entitled to my opinion, and my experiences. Yes, I've heard that Australia is racist, but I've also never BEEN there, and I have made many friends and acquaintances from there at my last job, so clearly not EVERY Aussie is a racist. You are so bat**** up your own a$$ that you can't accept that someone with a very different opinion of you even exists. Sounds to me like you should probably see a shrink then. People are supposed to be aware of people outside of themselves by the time they leave middle school.

But I don't doubt for a second that you're a Frenchie given how much you hate being Canadian.

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Old 02-08-2016, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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....not to mention the fact Australia has still a lot to do when it comes to women equality and "glass ceiling"....our friend Torontocheka would feel at home there for sure......


Oh, I guess that's why their last PM was a woman then. Makes perfect sense.

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Old 02-08-2016, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I'm sorry, I don't buy your story for a millisecond.

You are a militant, black, feminist, socialist, anti-American zealot who is strongly against racism and competitiveness, so you would move to Australia? Something there doesn't add up at all. Not even close. For anyone with your set of militant beliefs the USA should be the promised land compared to Australia.

Look you don't have to love the US, I have my problems with it, but you are sounding more and more like either someone who is bat**** crazy or having a field day trolling. I'm positive at this point it's the latter.

Also? That 2/3rds was a statistic I read, I didn't pull that out of thin air, genius: Two-thirds of Americans do not have a passport. So what.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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And I am never going to be a Canadian.

But when my wife came to the US moving between our countries was very simple. She was in fact sponsored by a Candy Store Owner who sponsored hundreds of Canadians.

Practicality...My wife's cousin Jan...from Sask...would easily work out well moving down here to the SW US most of the year. She could help us remain free of using services. But she can't stay here more than 6 months and her medical has to be handled outside the system...Why would both countries not allow us OFs to cluster together for efficiency in our old age?

To be truthful in the big picture you Canadians are kind of an afterthought. But if we actually thought about it and did it with though it might be useful to both countries.


In what way would it be useful to Canada? Could you provide concrete examples please? I would be curious to know how Canadians would stand to benefit from a larger workforce and more competition driving down wages, from losing the ability to set our own interest rates and devalue our own currency, and from losing our largest trading partner, as well as losing the ability to regulate the number of guns entering our territories, as well as having a higher number of violent criminals.

Please elaborate as I've asked this question before and no one has yet been able to provide an answer.

Thanks!
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