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Old 02-19-2013, 06:41 AM
 
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Well, hopefully they are teaching that is the Federal name for the holiday and that states have the right to call it whatever they want, or to simply not observe it all. State's rights and all that rot.
Doesn't matter what they call it...

someone will correct it in a forum to win the ultimate prize.

They should give kids the day off and force them to read this thread....
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:00 AM
 
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Doesn't matter what they call it...

someone will correct it in a forum to win the ultimate prize.

They should give kids the day off and force them to read this thread....
the older kids could do a character analysis on the thread for hw for the day off...
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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Not making anything up. It is called Presidents' Day because it is a combined birthday now.

The fact that they picked the birthday closer to Washington's birthday is irrelevant. His birthday is actually the 22nd. It is celebrated on a Monday to give you a long weekend.

BTW: I taught high school and we didn't have time to take out to talk about presidents in a class that was not designated as US History. However, I don't see how giving students the facts is teaching them anything made up.

Dawn



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It's not "technically", it IS Washington's Birthday holiday. Teachers should not be making up things and teaching it as fact.

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Old 02-19-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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the older kids could do a character analysis on the thread for hw for the day off...
It's one of those "I'm righter than you are" arguments. I'm sure the OP appreciates the education on the history of this great holiday.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:39 AM
 
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The fact that they picked the birthday closer to Washington's birthday is irrelevant. His birthday is actually the 22nd. It is celebrated on a Monday to give you a long weekend.
There is no Federal Holiday called President's Day. The official Federal holiday is Washington's Birthday. This holiday was established in 1879. NC does not have a President's day holiday.

In regards the Observance Date, this was changed by the Uniform Monday Holiday Act. As you will note, this act changed
  • Washington's Birthday: third Monday in February (formerly February 22)
  • Memorial Day: last Monday in May (formerly May 30)
  • Columbus Day: second Monday in October (formerly observed on October 12)
  • Veterans Day: fourth Monday in October (formerly November 11; subsequently returned to November 11 effective 1978

There is no combined holiday and attempts to make a day that would celebrate Lincoln were always thwarted by the Southern States. This is why there is no Presidents day in NC.

I'm sorry, if you as a teacher, are teaching children something else. It's a shame our education system has come to this.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:41 AM
 
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I guess I'm stupid, because I pulled up to my mailbox and looked inside like I do every day. No mail in there and more importantly, no snakes either.

^^^^ I confess, I'm with stupid too! Mailbox checked, even breathed a, "damn running late again today."

Apologies extended bs, even though I meant it with no slander or insult involved!
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:41 AM
 
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It's one of those "I'm righter than you are" arguments. I'm sure the OP appreciates the education on the history of this great holiday.
This is an equivalence fallacy argument.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:49 AM
 
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Again,

I am teaching teens and don't teach this anyway, but good lord you are making a huge deal about this.

Dawn

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There is no Federal Holiday called President's Day. The official Federal holiday is Washington's Birthday. This holiday was established in 1879. NC does not have a President's day holiday.

In regards the Observance Date, this was changed by the Uniform Monday Holiday Act. As you will note, this act changed
  • Washington's Birthday: third Monday in February (formerly February 22)
  • Memorial Day: last Monday in May (formerly May 30)
  • Columbus Day: second Monday in October (formerly observed on October 12)
  • Veterans Day: fourth Monday in October (formerly November 11; subsequently returned to November 11 effective 1978

There is no combined holiday and attempts to make a day that would celebrate Lincoln were always thwarted by the Southern States. This is why there is no Presidents day in NC.

I'm sorry, if you as a teacher, are teaching children something else. It's a shame our education system has come to this.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:56 AM
 
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Again,I am teaching teens and don't teach this anyway, but good lord you are making a huge deal about this.
Oh please, you are a happy participant in the making a big deal dance.

I stated a fact. A fact that anyone can look up. It is you who decided to challenge it by claiming somethag that isn't true, and furthermore justifying your position by the fact that you were a teacher. i.e. making a big deal out of it. I am only defending myself.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:04 AM
 
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Yes, you are defending yourself, at great lengths.

Our school district listed the day off as Presidents' Day. This has become the more common term. Whether it is an official name or not, the history of the day remains the same.

I just don't find this to be a big deal.

Dawn

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Oh please, you are a happy participant in the making a big deal dance.

I stated a fact. A fact that anyone can look up. It is you who decided to challenge it by claiming somethag that isn't true, and furthermore justifying your position by the fact that you were a teacher. i.e. making a big deal out of it. I am only defending myself.
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