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Romans 6:14
For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
Galatians 3:25
Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.
Galatians 5:18
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
Colossians 2:16
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
One needs to read and quote the entire context before using it to support any argument. Verse 17 qualifies which Sabbaths Paul is referring to:
16 ¶ Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Note that Paul says Sabbath days, (plural) and then qualifies his statement by saying which Sabbath days...the Sabbath days which are shadows of things to come. The entire sanctuary service as explained to Moses with all its services and sacrifices and feast days were all shadows and types of Christ's ministry while here on earth, and also His ministry on His return to heaven. There were 7 feast days, or annual Sabbaths, each denoting a specific part of Christs mission. They were to the Jew a foretaste of the gospel.
The weekly Sabbath however was already established before the law of Moses was given. The weekly Sabbath was first instituted before sin, therefore cannot be said of it that it was added because of sin, as the law of Moses was.
The weekly Sabbath was never established as a shadow of things to come.
1. It was a memorial of creation.
2. It was a reminder to the Jew (and Christian) of their deliverance from slavery and sin.
3. And all the Sabbaths were reminders that we are to rest from our own works (see Heb 4) and trust solely in the work of the Lamb of God in redemption.
To observe the Sabbath today is a sign of several things.
1. That it is God indeed Who sanctifies us. (Ezek. 20:12,20)
2. That we have accepted the authority of God as revealed in His word as above the presumed authority of man. (Mark 7:7)
3. The Creator, by reason of which His authority is established and is due worship,to Whom all humanity must eventually bow, has set His seal in the 4th commandment being the only commandment of the ten that names Him and identifies Him as the Lawgiver. A tradition even among earthly kings who set a seal and identifying mark on all official documents and laws. Take out the 4th commandment and you are left with nine commandments that could apply to any god, or demi-god in the universe. There remains nothing to show who the lawgiver is. So though one may claim to be submitted to the true God, without the Sabbath there is no definable proof or evidence that in your obedience (or not) of the Ten Commandments,the God you are submitted to is in fact the Creator.
One needs to read and quote the entire context before using it to support any argument. Verse 17 qualifies which Sabbaths Paul is referring to:
16 ¶ Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Note that Paul says Sabbath days, (plural) and then qualifies his statement by saying which Sabbath days...the Sabbath days which are shadows of things to come. The entire sanctuary service as explained to Moses with all its services and sacrifices and feast days were all shadows and types of Christ's ministry while here on earth, and also His ministry on His return to heaven. There were 7 feast days, or annual Sabbaths, each denoting a specific part of Christs mission. They were to the Jew a foretaste of the gospel.
The weekly Sabbath however was already established before the law of Moses was given. The weekly Sabbath was first instituted before sin, therefore cannot be said of it that it was added because of sin, as the law of Moses was.
The weekly Sabbath was never established as a shadow of things to come.
1. It was a memorial of creation.
2. It was a reminder to the Jew (and Christian) of their deliverance from slavery and sin.
3. And all the Sabbaths were reminders that we are to rest from our own works (see Heb 4) and trust solely in the work of the Lamb of God in redemption.
To observe the Sabbath today is a sign of several things.
1. That it is God indeed Who sanctifies us. (Ezek. 20:12,20)
2. That we have accepted the authority of God as revealed in His word as above the presumed authority of man. (Mark 7:7)
3. The Creator, by reason of which His authority is established and is due worship,to Whom all humanity must eventually bow, has set His seal in the 4th commandment being the only commandment of the ten that names Him and identifies Him as the Lawgiver. A tradition even among earthly kings who set a seal and identifying mark on all official documents and laws. Take out the 4th commandment and you are left with nine commandments that could apply to any god, or demi-god in the universe. There remains nothing to show who the lawgiver is. So though one may claim to be submitted to the true God, without the Sabbath there is no definable proof or evidence that in your obedience (or not) of the Ten Commandments,the God you are submitted to is in fact the Creator.
I find it sad, not amusing that sabbath keepers refer to the law of moses as all the rituals that came along with the law of Moses to justify their error
What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was putinto effect through angels by a mediator. It was "ADDED UNTIL",this verse here is clearly speaking about the 10 commandments,you have to be in rebellion to deny it.
Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.” Acts 15:5. Exactly what we are hearing on this forum.
Now then, why do you try to test Godby putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able tobear? NO! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
The Law came through Moses ,Grace and Truth came through Jesus Christ.John 1:17
The law was addedso that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more.Romans 5:2o
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing thelaw; RATHER, through the law we become conscious of sin. Romans 3:20
(for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. Heb 7:19
I marvel that those who attempt and fail to keep the commandments cannot accept the scriptures from the bible they worship.
The point of the OP shows they met, and broke bread, on the Sabbath.
That is your translation. The Bible says "They did this on the 1st day of the week." - everyone agrees the first day of the week is Sunday.
But that they assembled together on Sunday in itself does not indicate that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday, as there other Scriptures that say the new believers met everyday - Acts 2:46 -Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved. Does that mean that the Sabbath was changed to every day?
There are other scriptures that indicate that the new Christians were starting to meet on Sunday - in Corinth they were assembling and contributing into the church treasury every 1st day of the week 1 Cor 16:2:
1 Cor 16:2
2 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.
There are records that indicate the disciples worshipped on Sundays, often referring to it as "The Lord's Day" - glorifying the Lord's resurrection day.
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You can try and refute the verse, or provide another verse so we can look at it.
I don't have to, the scripture speaks for itself. You are the one that is trying to refute it, so show me a scripture where the Church of the 1st Century observed the Sabbath, or where Jesus mentioned observing the Sabbath.
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But what you will not do is preach to me that a commandment written by the finger of God Himself, has been annulled or changed.
God clearly tells us He is making a new covenant (Jer 31:31-34) - where he is changing the way things were, where Jesus would be the mediator of the new covenant. God in the OT required the Jews to make sacrifices to atone for their sin, do you also still observe those?
Heb 8:13
By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.
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So let us get on with the verses.
And by the way. If Jesus said He was Lord of the Sabbath, does this mean the Sabbath no longer is required, even if He is the Lord of it? So, really what you are saying is He is the Lord of nothing. Wrong.
You are misunderstanding the meaning of the word "Lord". When someone is Lord, those under Him are his servants (or slaves). Jesus by proclaiming that he was Lord of the Sabbath was clearly indicating that the Sabbath was His servant, not the other way around. Why he considered doing God's will was more important than keeping manmade rules. The Sabbath was ordained by God to provide man a day of rest, a day dedicated to God. That it is observed on Sunday or Saturday does not constitute a sin. After all, Jesus forgives us of all sin, that would include worshipping on a wrong day, if that is what you think it is.
Also, the 10 Commandments were part of the Mosaic law, given to the Hebrews alone. Those of us (non-Jews) have never been under the decalogue. The disciples were Jews, so yes, they went to the Synagogue frequently on the Sabbath for the purpose of proclaiming the gospel.
The kingdom of Christ was established on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1-2)and that always fell on the day after the Sabbath (Sunday) Lev 23:15-16)
15 ‘And you shall count for yourselves from the day after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering: seven Sabbaths shall be completed. 16 Count fifty days to the day after the seventh Sabbath; then you shall offer a new grain offering to the LORD.
What are you saved for? To disregard the law?
Did Jesus pay the penalty for your transgressing of the law that you may continue to transgress it?
Did God graciously give to you the Holy Spirit to sanctify you and change you into the image of Christ Who was the ultimate law-keeper, or does the Holy Spirit teach you that the law is no longer relevant?
Did Jesus fulfill the law in order for the law to be abrogated, or did He fulfil the law to demonstrate that through the power and grace of a merciful and loving Father we all can now obey the law?
When John said that we must walk as Jesus walked, John did not mean that Jesus walked as a lawless disobedient Sabbath breaking sinful rebellious reprobate, and we copy that. No no no. Jesus was sinless, perfect in all His dealings with God and man, loving unconditionally thus was without condemnation all His life. This is how we are to walk. And he who is game to declare that this is impossible denies the power of God.
We are saved so that Jesus can transform us into His likeness, so that we may prove presentable before God. While the salvation is immediate upon acknowledging Jesus as savior, the journey to a sinless life is long, all the way until the day of our death. We cannot do it on our own, we need our daily walk with the Holy Spirit in order to accomplish it, and still we sin. Why we are told to repent.
The covenant that included the Sabbath (Mosaic law) was given to the Hebrews alone. It also included an extensive body of supplementary ordinances that the Hebrews were to observe, among them a specific sacrificial system for the Israelites to receive pardon for sins. Gentiles were not required to fulfill any of those ordinances. Gentiles have never been obligated to observe the Sabbath. When Jesus died on the cross, He paid the price for our sins. The new covenant claims that the 10 Commandments are now written in our hearts, in other words, the Holy Spirit convicts us when we break God's laws. Obviously the Christians of 1st Century were not being convicted of sin when they were meeting on the 1st day of the week to worship, on "The Lord's Day".
We have been adopted as God's chosen, but we will never be Israelites.
The Israelites were blood descendants of Abraham. Ruth the Moabite married Boaz the Israelite, she became a Jew by faith, but she did not become a descendant of Abraham. Christians are now also God's chosen people, but we are not Israelites.
Revelation 22:14, 8th to the last verse in the WHOLE BIBLE Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
People are ignoring so much scripture here, James quoted out of the ten commandments, break one break all,
when the rich young ruler asked how to be saved, Jesus said keep the commandments, quoting 5 of the ten commandments, for you can not have breaking them work, they are listed all through the NT, James was not talking only to Hebrews, Paul clearly stated, we are not to be hearers of the law but doerers of the law and he was the apostle to the Gentiles, wake up, this was said in Romans not Hebrews
the law is the first five books of the Bible as most know(Gen-Deut)
JESUS said teach to break the least of the commandments in the law(first 5 books) and the prophets(the rest of the OT) you will be the least in the kingdom of heaven(Matt 5:17-20) Jesus was talking to all believers not to just Hebrews. Till heaven and earth pass, Not one jot or title will pass in the law till all is fullfilled. Why is it people spend their day fighting about milk,
This is so clear, if you love me keep my commandments, why is it that people can not see that God is just and has rules in the new testament, the law and how to keep it in the new testament is all through it, and there are not two sets of rules for believers of different types, there is niether Jew or Gentile now, we are all the same no Jew or Gentile, race does not matter, we have to be true Jews through faith Romans Ch 2(end of), Christians are the only true Jews to God.
we teach every book of the Bible and learn it in almost every church, because we still keep much of the OT as is stated so clearly, change of preisthood(Aaron to Melchizedek) Paul said, change of the law, Heb 7:12
If you even look at a woman to lust after her you have commited adultery, interesting that we now have extended ten commandments, Jesus said
ALL GENTILES IN THE OLD TEST LAW PERIOD HAD TO KEEP THE SABBATH DAY AS ALL THE OTHER RULES THE JEWS KEPT, IT IS CLEARLY STATED OR THEY WERE CAST OUT AS A JEW WAS, RUTH KEPT THE SABBATH YOU BET WITH BOAS
When the two greatest commandments are listed( love God with all, love your neighbor), God says all the law and prophets hang on these two commandments, the old testament hangs on the two greatest commandments, not making them void as Paul said
People do not see for they live in sin, people live blind and can not see for they choose not to then their heart gets hard. And God blinds them, nothing dumber than a person claiming or a Christian in sin.
Sabbath is Sat, Lord's Day Sunday, one ends the other begins, rest Sat, meet on Sunday, simple and beautiful,
This one is really going to get you it is so clear
Matt 24:20 When the anti christ durning the middle of the tribulation sets up his image the abomination of desolation occurs, God warns to pray that it not happen in winter or on the Sabbath Day when people have to flee Jerusalem, this has not happened yet. Clearly this is a warning that the Sabbath Day is to be kept,
and don't talk nonsense that the Hebrew Christians can only go a Sabbath days journey in Jerusalem to flee, but the Gentile Christians can do what they want, dumb
There is no way you can say that Hebrew Christians have a different set of rules when Peter and Paul the rulers of both groups of believers were living as the Gentiles, For there is neither Jew or Gentile, no distinction. Paul said to Peter, you as a Jew living as a Gentile, but not breaking the ten commandments, OH no, don't go there, I know your thoughts God says and the devil bends and twists
the apostles in Jerusalem were constantly having problems getting things right at times that Paul had right, they gave some conditions about the Gentiles abstaining for they were not to go under the OT in full swing, but there is no way that a Gentile Christian would only be keeping not drinking blood and fornication, those few things today,
a woman is aways to have her head covered when she prays 1 Cor 11, is this for the Jews or Gentiles
Long hair is a shame to a man, for Jews or Gentiles I Cor 11
Brother is not to go to law with brother, for Jews or Gentiles I Cor 6
The Sabbath and many other things was lost a long time ago and the Adventists don't get things right at all nor any denomination, nor non-denomination ones, who teaches to keep the whole Bible and to obey it? much less doing it
Exodus 12:48-49, right at the beginning of the law being given
And when a stranger(Gentile) shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it, and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is homeborn(Jew), and unto the stranger(Gentile) that sojourneth among you.
Oh foolish and slow of heart to beleive and understand, this peoples heart has waxed gross and their heart is far from me, they do not see with their eyes and hear with their ears that I might heal them, God has given slummbering eyes so they can not see the obvious, I wonder why it is that the obvious is not seen, sin sin sin in a persons life, pride you can not reason with
Where did Jesus teach to keep the Sabbath Matt 24:20, (when the abomination of desolation occurs, pray that you do not have to flee in winter or on the Sabbath Day), during the tribulation period this is said to warn, Revelation is when this verse occurs and the book of Revelation is the revelation of Jesus Christ to His Church, and to the elect during the tribulation and after, are you sure
He is talking to the elect or believers of that day in the middle of the trib to help them, so they are His, for he is going to let the wicked get killed, so if the church is gone, then who is left to keep the Sabbath day during the tribulation period, the elect, be very very careful messing with the Word when you do not know it
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