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Originally Posted by savedbysovereigngrace
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More error, The children of the flesh, are not the children of God. Rom 9:8
8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
The Israel according to the sinai covenant, were no more married to God[Spiritually], of which whom Christ is BTW, than Ishmael and his descendants were, in fact, they are liken as the same according to the inspired writer paul. Gal 4:
22For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
30Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
The Heirs are the True Bride[Joint Heirs with Christ their Husband], it never was Israel under the Old Covenant, Abraham's Israel under the Old Covenant according to the flesh only, Have never been the Children of God, not ever.
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And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Gen 48 Eze 37 Hos 2 Rom 11
Obviously you don't know your scripture. If it wasn't for the unificatin of the north and southern tribes under Christ, you, would not have your salvation, that you still can't prove you have, since according to you, Christ has not yet come to bring it in.
Read closely:
Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth [is] mine:...and it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were
thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the
voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that [was] in the camp trembled. And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with God; and they stood at the nether part of the mount. And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly. And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice.
Now follow:
And cried with a loud voice, as [when] a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven
thunders uttered their voices. And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.....But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the
mystery of God should be finished,
as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
[Even] the
mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is
made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known
what [is] the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Now follow:
Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is
now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Again..:
For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be
one flesh. This is a
great mystery: but I speak concerning
Christ and the church.
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of
this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel,
until the fulness of the Gentiles(nations) be come in.
Backing up:
And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a
multitude of nations.
Forward:
Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. ....Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions: And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become
one in thine hand.
Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah,
and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
Now this is very important:
And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel
from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and
bring them into their own land:
My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people cf. Isa 51 and Rev 21.
Finally:
God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying...........Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Now read very very closely:
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this
mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved:
as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob....
and finally finally:
Remember Hosea?
The type husband for God, and his wife...the TYPE wife for Israel?
And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies. I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD.
Your hermeneutics are seriously lacking...I have much, much more.
Because of the ELECT in Israel, you have your salvation that Christ brought. If it wasn't for God reuniting the 12 tribes...FLESH SEED....under the banner of
faith in Christ, you would not have your salvation. Christ paid for sin on Calvary. Christ came for His first century chaste bride and brought salvation when the temple fell. Now all can benefit from this.
Soon...at hand...hmmmm..
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