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Old 08-02-2012, 10:42 AM
 
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Why should we? Why does anyone forgive? In your liberal brand of Christianity there are no repercussions for sin...no penalty...no ransom was paid. Your god is a weak, unjust, unholy being.
Reaping what we sow is plenty of repercussion. Clearly you are not reading and just making knee jerk responses based on your indoctrination. No payment is necessary. Christ took care of it.

 
Old 08-02-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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If you think that's the only reason God became a man and submitted to crucifixion---so he could make a good will gesture that accomplished nothing but to give us warm fuzzies....that's sad. And your god is not the God of the Bible.
Warm fuzzies are you serious ?. Warm fuzzies comes from alter calls and the sinners prayer kind of salvation, so don't make me laugh, i am all about a changed life ....... The life of Christ kind of life, not the hard begruding unforgiving holding the world to ransom life born and rooted in fundamental christianity.

Fundamental Christianity is of the same spirit of the wicked servant that was freely given its huge debt, forgets it was shown great and undeserved mercy and then proceeds to held the world to ransom for what itself was freely forgiven off. If your light is darkness how great is your darkness ?.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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Reaping what we sow is plenty of repercussion. Clearly you are not reading and just making knee jerk responses based on your indoctrination. No payment is necessary. Christ took care of it.
Took care of what? Our sin debt? How did he do that? God said he wouldn't let the guilty go unpunished. Are you saying he is a liar?
 
Old 08-02-2012, 10:55 AM
 
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Took care of what? Our sin debt? How did he do that? God said he wouldn't let the guilty go unpunished. Are you saying he is a liar?
Do you punish those who wrong you ? Or do you show them the same mercy you have been shown ?.

Same question to snowdencold.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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Do you punish those who wrong you ? Or do you show them the same mercy you have been shown ?.

Same question to snowdencold.
We have a concept called justice that says guilt must be punished. God is a just God. It's not just about petty vengeance...but justice.

Again, I ask: God said he would punish the guilty and would not spare them. How does that work in your world with Jesus just wanting to hug you and love on you...but no actual sacrifice was made?
 
Old 08-02-2012, 11:03 AM
 
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We have a concept called justice that says guilt must be punished. God is a just God. It's not just about petty vengeance...but justice.

Again, I ask: God said he would punish the guilty and would not spare them. How does that work in your world with Jesus just wanting to hug you and love on you...but no actual sacrifice was made.
So you punish those who wrong you ?. If not why not ?.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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So you punish those who wrong you ?. If not why not ?.
Do you punish those that wrong you? If a guy breaks into your house...will you press charges? If someone murders a family member do you want them locked up?

Of course the guilty get punished. Any judge that let a murderer walk is a bad, evil judge.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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Do you punish those that wrong you? If a guy breaks into your house...will you press charges? If someone murders a family member do you want them locked up?

Of course the guilty get punished. Any judge that let a murderer walk is a bad, evil judge.
Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.


If You, LORD, should mark iniquities, O Lord, who could stand? Psalm 130:3

I remember a true story shared by Watchman Née about a dear old sister, who was disturbed in the night by someone who had broken into her house, she finds the man, tells him to take what he wants, cooks him some food and the intruder repents because of this dear old lady's reaction and action. No punishment required.

Greater is he that is in you than he that is in fundamental Christianity . Two different spirits.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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Sounds like pcamps is offering to forgive people their sins. lol.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 11:22 AM
 
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Sounds like pcamps is offering to forgive people their sins. lol.
Why don't you forgive ?. I forgive all things just like Christ did. God is not up in the sky he is in you doing the works.
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