Could a "Loving God" Actually Say Something This Callous? (sinners, Jesus Christ)
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And not a one of them says he just dismisses offenses with no ramifications.
Because He doesn't dismiss anything without ramifications. The dispute is over what the ramifications actually are from our loving God . . . certainly NOT ET or Annihilation.
Which one? Maybe I missed something, but I did not see anything in the past 4 pages that answered my question.
Well what do you mean by "died in our place" then? Maybe I agree with you. Maybe we're talking past each other about two different things. P-S theory talks about Jesus being punished in our place - which obviously is closely related to dying but there are some nuances and differences that need to be fleshed out so we're clear about what's going on.
Maybe you're hung up on something that we think indirectly happens and you're reacting against it as if we said it was a direct link.
Sure sounds like verses like the ones below say the very thing:
1 Peter 2:24 (ESV) He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed.
and
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit,
Sure sounds like verses like the ones below say the very thing:
1 Peter 2:24 (ESV) He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed.
and
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit,
It actually says he bore our sins. No mention of being a substitute for us or in our place.
And not a one of them says he just dismisses offenses with no ramifications.
When you learn to walk in unconditional forgiveness you can. While you remain in unforgiveness towards someone it rebounds back to us.What we give returns to us.
It actually says he bore our sins. No mention of being a substitute for us or in our place.
Mark 10:45
45 "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
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