Could a "Loving God" Actually Say Something This Callous? (believer, prophets)
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Do you not understand that when you forgive someone it is actually God in you forgiving ? Or do you not forgive someone who wrongs you ?.
You are saying something which the Pharisee and scribe said to Jesus.
Why does this Camps talk like that? He’s blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?”
You do not comprehend the difference between you forgiving someone the transgressions against you, and you pretending to have the authority to forgive sins people commit against God.
Has God authorized you PCAMPS to forgive people their sins on Christ's behalf? Can you declare Idi Amins sins forgiven? Can you cleanse the sins of Hitler?
I'm an imperfect, sinful human being. I have no basis by which to withhold forgiveness from anyone.
God, on the other hand, is the perfect, holy, just and perfect Creator--and He has pledged to punish those that violate his commands.
So once again....I ask: What is your basis for calling God a liar?
Unbelievable
Forgive us our sins as we forgive those that sin against us. Kindergarten stuff. At least those who wanted to stone the woman caught in adultery had the good sense to walk away when reproved,you blood thirsty Fundies still want the guilty punished. Lord have mercy on them for they know not what they are doing.
Forgive us our sins as we forgive those that sin against us. Kindergarten stuff. At least those who wanted to stone the woman caught in adultery had the good sense to walk away when reproved,you blood thirsty Fundies still want the guilty punished. Lord have mercy on them for they know not what they are doing.
First, you didn't really address his point. Second, we don't want to see the guilty punished - we want them to experience God's mercy and grace found through faith in Christ Jesus.
You do not comprehend the difference between you forgiving someone the transgressions against you, and you pretending to have the authority to forgive sins people commit against God.
Has God authorized you PCAMPS to forgive people their sins on Christ's behalf? Can you declare Idi Amins sins forgiven? Can you cleanse the sins of Hitler?
I do not hold a thing against Hitler or Amin, the reason why.....because of Christ LIVING in me.
You have no idea who God Is and no comprehension of him too.
Are you in so much darkness that you cannot understand "forgive us our sin AS WE forgive those that sin against us. Your forgiveness whether you like it or not is dependent on your own ability to forgive.
But if YOU do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. Matt 6:15.
First, you didn't really address his point. Second, we don't want to see the guilty punished - we want them to experience God's mercy and grace found through faith in Christ Jesus.
Well forgive them then, just like your heavenly Father does. Just like you are freely forgiven by God.
Forgive us our sins as we forgive those that sin against us. Kindergarten stuff. At least those who wanted to stone the woman caught in adultery had the good sense to walk away when reproved,you blood thirsty Fundies still want the guilty punished. Lord have mercy on them for they know not what they are doing.
Do you not understand the concept of justice? When you commit a crime you are held accountable. To not be punished would be a travesty of justice. A just judge cannot dismiss a criminal lest he be unjust.
The reason we are commanded to forgive each other our wrongdoings is because we have been forgiven much. We are also not God...and we are not sinned against, since we did not create anything in this world. We have no basis for demanding payback.
God, on the other hand, created this world. He has promised to pay back sin with punishment. To do any less than to punish the guilty would make him a liar. You have not yet addressed that point.
First, you didn't really address his point. Second, we don't want to see the guilty punished - we want them to experience God's mercy and grace found through faith in Christ Jesus.
What he is saying has no point,you want the guilty punished for what you were freely shown grace and mercy for.
I'm an imperfect, sinful human being. I have no basis by which to withhold forgiveness from anyone.
God, on the other hand, is the perfect, holy, just and perfect Creator--and He has pledged to punish those that violate his commands.
So once again....I ask: What is your basis for calling God a liar?
You'll find that he does with every stroke of every key he hits on his keyboard. I wouldn't waist any more time on him, as he has his own god and his own gospel...all false.
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