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The Gospel of Condemnation: "THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD!"
"Walk in the Spirit; and you will not fulfill the lust of your own heart."
It's not surprising then that those who reject the truth seemingly sides with the person who asked this "Did God really say.. you shall not really die?"
Yeah, God really said:
those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just,
for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
Of course they are not saved whom God say's cannot be saved. And it is so sad that so many people will call God a liar out of one side of their mouth by claiming His truth if not right and then claim to be serving God out of the other side of their mouth.
Nobody is actually calling God a liar and you know it. Both sides are buried in their understanding of the bible and neither of you believe they themselves are calling God a liar. The URs have developed their hermeneutical approach to the point where they have a pretty good counter for every argument I've seen ETers bring in, so this ridiculous idea that they are intenionally lying or using Satanic ideas is nothing but ultra fundamentalist paranoia and slander...which is also false witness...which is also against one of the 10 commandments.. I would choose your words more carefully.
It's not surprising then that those who reject the truth seemingly sides with the person who asked this "Did God really say.. you shall not really die?"
Yeah, God really said:
those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just,
for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
Men devise what is right in their own eyes, until corrected. Apparently, you see the word condemned from a heart of malice.
Nobody is actually calling God a liar and you know it. Both sides are buried in their understanding of the bible and neither of you believe they themselves are calling God a liar. The URs have developed their hermeneutical approach to the point where they have a pretty good counter for every argument I've seen ETers bring in, so this ridiculous idea that they are intenionally lying or using Satanic ideas is nothing but ultra fundamentalist paranoia and slander...which is also false witness...which is also against one of the 10 commandments.. I would choose your words more carefully.
It's not surprising then that those who reject the truth seemingly sides with the person who asked this "Did God really say.. you shall not really die?"
Yeah, God really said:
those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just,
for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
As scripture say's one day all will confess but until then we must put up with them attacking God and His word and trying to make it personal against us. Look what they did to Jesus. Should we expect those of us who faithfully follow Jesus to be treated any better?
I was right when I said you would drag out the bible, was I not? Go ahead and believe in the ET God. I know many will go to their graves demanding that people MUST believe in literal, never-ending HELL-FIRE or else. That's pretty much what the gospel has come down to in a lot of churches. It is a fear-based religion and it works quite well for those who use it to control people.
As scripture say's one day all will confess but until then we must put up with them attacking God and His word and trying to make it personal against us. Look what they did to Jesus. Should we expect those of us who faithfully follow Jesus to be treated any better?
"I will put enmity between thee and the woman, between thy seed and her seed."
Enmity means the state of being actively opposed to someone or something.
It appears to me that the death of Jesus was brought about through human volition, given the political and religious powers of the day. Although at the same time, Jesus was fully aware that his message and what he represented to the status quo would ultimately lead to a violent death. Thus, his life was an issue in setting the captives free from the bondage of the established sects. But his death was not divinely foreordained as a penal substitution, whereas, there is no greater love than to lay one's own life down for that of another – instead of drawing a sword. Many are fixated on Jesus' death, and will accept nothing but the blood of Jesus, as "they know not, what they do." Although, there is only ONE whose undeniable innocence (not an ordinary victim) was able to change the process of scapegoating (a slaughterhouse religion having a carnivorous diet). And it is a saving act of God; a victory over the powers of this world (men) and a defeat of death, reversing it through his Life and Resurrection. The cross may, indeed be, the centerpiece of the Christian religion, but it is not God's altar. Rather, it is the gospel which was/is/will end all bloodshed, not that of merely exchanging victims (bulls and goats for that of Christ as a substitution). It was a sacrifice to end all sacrificing. Let's not make it a prescription for suffering death, but ONE of LIFE. Through personal experience, the human race will learn how deadly and destructive their choices have been.
Collectively, we still have not learned that lesson, but we will – believe it, or not.
Amen, and I think we should definitely question the motives of anyone who would believe that their own children, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends deserve to be eternally tormented in flames of literal fire without end. Anyone who believes that and walks away with a smile on their face is a spiritually sick individual. They will drag out the B-I-B-L-E and demand you bow down to it and/or their interpretation of it and if you don't they will write you off to the vengeance of their imagined ET God.
The thing is - God will do what He is going to do. Whatever will happen in the eons, or whatever you want to call it, He will bring it to pass.
I will praise God regardless of whether He saves everyone, or He punishes 90% of the population forever and ever - because of who He is.
Can you say the same?
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