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Mr Jarber, Mr Wayne and Mr 555, would you agree that Jesus Christ is the exact representation of who God is,that him being the Life that is the Light to all men, by His actual Life,described to us what God truly is like ?.
He said if you have seen me you have seen the Father, what does this mean to the 3 of you ?.
I'm not one of those three but I feel Jesus was saying that if we look at ourselves, we look at God.
Mr Jarber, Mr Wayne and Mr 555, would you agree that Jesus Christ is the exact representation of who God is,that him being the Life that is the Light to all men, by His actual Life,described to us what God truly is like ?.
He said if you have seen me you have seen the Father, what does this mean to the 3 of you ?.
OF course it is NOT about rejecting the entire OT! It is what tells us of Christ. It is the descriptions of God and His motives and actions that are contradicted by Christ's entire life and teaching. Every time reference is made to God and what His motives are or what He is doing and why . . . they are WRONG! They believed in a jealous, savage War God who demanded blood sacrifices to appease His wrath and that is how they described Him. They did not recognize the God of love that Christ revealed and that is why they scourged and killed him. I am afraid that our brothers and sisters in Christ who continue to believe in the War God are corrupting their love of God with misunderstanding of Him. They should believe Christ and have faith in His revelations of our God's true nature as Love.
War god? You mean like this one, which Jesus talks about?
And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades. For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.”
Exo 3:14 AndGod said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
-Joh 8:57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
-Joh 8:58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
-Act 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
-Act 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord{Yehovah}? Andthe Lord{Yehovah}said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
So yes...they are ONE and THE SAME GOD. GOD is amazing like that...
If you are going to copy/paste from some weird source always copy it to the notepad FIRST . . . then copy it from the notepad to the forum The notepad will strip all the extraneous and annoying stuff. You can't do it once you have posted it to the forum, though because the junk commands have been changed to text. You have to do iton the original source text.
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If you are going to copy/paste from some weird source always copy it to the notepad FIRST . . . then copy it from the notepad to the forum The notepad will strip all the extraneous and annoying stuff. You can't do it once you have posted it to the forum, though because the junk commands have been changed to text. You have to do iton the original source text.
I reposted it...above. I didn't realize it was going to do that lol....
Exo 3:14 AndGod said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
-Joh 8:57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
-Joh 8:58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
-Act 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
-Act 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord{Yehovah}? Andthe Lord{Yehovah}said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
So yes...they are ONE and THE SAME GOD. GOD is amazing like that...
Of cause, unfortunately we forgot who I AM is,and created God after our own imagination.
Isaiah 46:5 To whom will you liken Me and make Me equal and compare Me, that we may be alike?.
Isaiah 46:8 Earnestly remember the former things, [which I did] of old; for I am God, and there is no one else; I am God, and there is none like Me.
Exo 3:14 AndGod said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
-Joh 8:57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
-Joh 8:58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
-Act 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
-Act 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord{Yehovah}? Andthe Lord{Yehovah}said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
So yes...they are ONE and THE SAME GOD. GOD is amazing like that...
You don't seriously think I would believe a person in the internet who says the Bible is a lie, and that I should listen to him because the spirit told him the truth?
For years I have been asking your universalist friends to tell me one spiritual teaching which the spirit has told them, which is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, but cannot be found in the Bible, but none of them has been able to provide one. Now that you have suggested that the Bible cannot be trusted, I finally have one such thing, but I have to tell you that I do not believe that message came from the Holy Spirit.
Sorry, lost in the primary concern. The first sentence is another misrepresentation of what I and others have said about the Bible, which is a useful tool, but subject to errors that need to be examined in the light of the Spirit. Judge by the fruit o the spirit.
As for the second, let me propose the idea that took over 1800 years for the church in general to realize and that is that it is inherently wrong for one person to own another as chattel. I don't think there are many who think that slavery is ok. We'll just do one at a time, ok?
Of cause, unfortunately we forgot who I AM is,and created God after our own imagination.
It's great to see you admit that you have created a god after your own imagination. Admiting you have a problem is the first step to recovery!
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