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I suggest you learn what exactly God means by justice.
For you are not doing it justice with your belief that it means punishment upon the offender.
like really?
How many times is it repeated in the Bible starting with Adam & Eve in Genesis and ending in Revelation?
2 Peter 2:9-11
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,
putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; ...... if this is so,
then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.
I suggest you learn what exactly God means by justice.
For you are not doing it justice with your belief that it means punishment upon the offender.
like really?
How many times is it repeated in the Bible starting with Adam & Eve in Genesis and ending in Revelation?
2 Peter 2:9-11
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; ...... if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.
Is that within the realm of a strong reprimand (chastisement), or corporal punishment; severely beating them?
In other words, to incapacitate them like that of a slave?
I suggest you learn what exactly God means by justice.
For you are not doing it justice with your belief that it means punishment upon the offender.
like really?
How many times is it repeated in the Bible starting with Adam & Eve in Genesis and ending in Revelation?
2 Peter 2:9-11
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,
putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; ...... if this is so,
then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.
Lol. You have no idea. If you believe justice means a judgment that condemns a man, you still need help to comprehend what justice means exactly.
Lol. You have no idea. If you believe justice means a judgment that condemns a man, you still need help to comprehend what justice means exactly.
God is perfectly Just because of His perfect Holiness. It is His very nature. When Uzzah placed his hand on the ark to steady it, God killed him on the spot. Uzzah disobeyed God and God exacted His justice upon him.
We deserve God's justice for our sinful nature, but it is through God's perfect love that He sent Jesus to fulfill our penalty for our sin. In doing this, God's perfect righteousness and justice are exacted through His love for us.
God is perfectly Just because of His perfect Holiness. It is His very nature. When Uzzah placed his hand on the ark to steady it, God killed him on the spot. Uzzah disobeyed God and God exacted His justice upon him.
We deserve God's justice for our sinful nature, but it is through God's perfect love that He sent Jesus to fulfill our penalty for our sin. In doing this, God's perfect righteousness and justice are exacted through His love for us.
Trying to kill 2 birds with one stone here........ You and twin
but you neglect justice and the love of God.
But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness.
Do you honestly believe that Jesus is saying here that the pharisee and scribe neglected yours and twinspins understanding of Justice ?. He was speaking against your understanding and application of it.
God is perfectly Just because of His perfect Holiness. It is His very nature. When Uzzah placed his hand on the ark to steady it, God killed him on the spot. Uzzah disobeyed God and God exacted His justice upon him.
We deserve God's justice for our sinful nature, but it is through God's perfect love that He sent Jesus to fulfill our penalty for our sin. In doing this, God's perfect righteousness and justice are exacted through His love for us.
It appears to me that the death of Jesus was brought about through human volition, given the political and religious powers of the day. Although at the same time, Jesus was fully aware that his message; and what he represented to the status quo would ultimately lead to a violent death. Thus, his life was an issue in setting the captives free from the established Religious sects of the day. But his death was not divinely foreordained as a penal substitution, whereas, there is no greater love than to lay one's own life down for that of another. Many are fixated on Jesus' death, and will accept nothing but the blood of Jesus, as "they know not, what they do." Although, there is only ONE whose undeniable innocence (not an ordinary victim) was able to change the process of scapegoating (a slaughterhouse religion with a carnivorous diet). And, it’s a saving act of God; a victory over the powers of this world (men) and a defeat of death, reversing it through his Life and Resurrection. The cross may, indeed be, the centerpiece of the Christian religion, but it is not God's altar, or that of merely exchanging victims, bulls and goats for that of Christ as a substitution.
It appears to me that the death of Jesus was brought about through human volition, given the political and religious powers of the day. Although at the same time, Jesus was fully aware that his message; and what he represented to the status quo would ultimately lead to a violent death. Thus, his life was an issue in setting the captives free from the established Religious sects of the day. But his death was not divinely foreordained as a penal substitution, whereas, there is no greater love than to lay one's own life down for that of another. Many are fixated on Jesus' death, and will accept nothing but the blood of Jesus, as "they know not, what they do." Although, there is only ONE whose undeniable innocence (not an ordinary victim) was able to change the process of scapegoating (a slaughterhouse religion with a carnivorous diet). And, it’s a saving act of God; a victory over the powers of this world (men) and a defeat of death, reversing it through his Life and Resurrection. The cross may, indeed be, the centerpiece of the Christian religion, but it is not God's altar, or that of merely exchanging victims, bulls and goats for that of Christ as a substitution.
The entire Scripture points to the cross, which is the the most important event in the history of the Universe.
There is no way to make a case for the cross not being an atoning sacrifice for our sins. It's impossible. This truth is woven in the Scriptures to an extant that it would be impossible to extricate it.
well if you believe that all the things on that list are ok, they you are pretty far from God and from me.
Being that God spoke all things on that list (direct quote or spoken through prophets) ... then it's just a matter of who is pretty far from God if one doesn't believe Jesus who says "your word is truth".
well if you believe that all the things on that list are ok, they you are pretty far from God and from me.
I don't think anyone has said, "It's alright to have haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises
wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, or one who sows discord among brothers?"
But many do it, while professing to be Christian?
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