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Old 02-23-2015, 03:37 PM
 
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John you seem a bit to ecstatic about this. Is this what makes you happy? Your belief in a great judgment of others ,just so you can feel good about being right? Intense joy at the death, and destruction of others is unfathomable.
Of course not. Thats why I am on this thread trying to tell people what will save them from that fate.
I hate the false concept of eternal torment as much as I hate the false concept of eternal security from a sinners prayer. Both misrepresent God and the Bible
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:39 PM
 
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You can test the Bible for yourself to determine if it is truly the Word of God.
It makes many claims and prophecies and contains many historical accounts of the world.
Judge it by it's content. You don't need to dance around it like its a house of cards.
If it truly is of God it will stand on it's own against any amount of criticism or else it is not of God.
I judge it by its words and its adherents and find it lacking.
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:41 PM
 
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So, an eye for an eye kind of thing?
Everyone will reap what they have sown. It is not our place to pay evil back for evil. Justice belongs to the Lord. Some have sown much evil, I would not envy what awaits them. Some have been very wronged, I look forward to the wrongs being made right by the only being capable of doing so
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:42 PM
 
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Everyone will reap what they have sown. It is not our place to pay evil back for evil. Justice belongs to the Lord. Some have sown much evil, I would not envy what awaits them. Some have been very wronged, I look forward to the wrongs being made right by the only being capable of doing so
How will people being punished and annihilated make wrong things right?
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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I judge it by its words and its adherents and find it lacking.
In what way does it come up short?

I don't even want to get into looking at all those who proclaim Christ. I already know that filth.
Many people who call themselves followers of Christ are workers of inequity. Jesus said we would know them by their fruits.
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:49 PM
 
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No book or person except for you apparently
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Of course not. Thats why I am on this thread trying to tell people what will save them from that fate
You do it with such relish, though. So your faith is not making you happy? God wants you to be happy.

Either you are happy doing the whole fire and brimstone biblical messaging, or you are in the wrong business. The bible expects you to be joyful about the end of the world.

To be good at your job. You job has to make you happy. If your job does not make you happy and bring you joy, it is time to get another job.
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:50 PM
 
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How will people being punished and annihilated make wrong things right?
The judgements are not all negative. People will reap what they have sown in all ways, I do not understand how that will occur or what it entails. God is much more creative and powerful than we can understand just look at how complex His creation is.

After justice has been given, those who are not in the book of life will not have eternal life.
That may be too tough for you to accept, but it is what God said He is going to do. Our evil godless ways will be put an end to, God has greater plans for His children than an eternity of the nonsense which has occured on this earth
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:54 PM
 
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You do it with such relish, though. So your faith is not making you happy? God wants you to be happy.

Either you are happy doing the whole fire and brimstone biblical messaging, or you are in the wrong business. The bible expects you to be joyful about the end of the world.

To be good at your job. You job has to make you happy. If your job does not make you happy and bring you joy, it is time to get another job.
I'm just saying what the Bible says. I have a lot of joy, and honestly I do look forward to greater things.
Fire and Brimstone is not the message of the Gospel, because death already awaits all men. So in the end, they are not getting anything other than what is natural. Death.

The message of the Gospel is Jesus Christ, life and forgiveness of sins through being born of the Holy Spirit of God which is eternal and will not perish
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:56 PM
 
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The judgements are not all negative. People will reap what they have sown in all ways, I do not understand how that will occur or what it entails. God is much more creative and powerful than we can understand just look at how complex His creation is.

After justice has been given, those who are not in the book of life will not have eternal life.
That may be too tough for you to accept, but it is what God said He is going to do. Our evil godless ways will be put an end to, God has greater plans for His children than an eternity of the nonsense which has occured on this earth
Of course not, but we are discussing the negative judgments. And, forget about creativity, can you tell me how someone being punished and annihilated makes a wrong thing right?
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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Of course not, but we are discussing the negative judgments. And, forget about creativity, can you tell me how someone being punished and annihilated makes a wrong thing right?
No, because I don't know what God is capable of or how long this process will take or what our concept and perception of reality will even be like during this time.
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