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Old 02-23-2015, 05:01 PM
 
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Based on what? Mainstream science theories by a few men who want to be famous and wealthy? They are no different than all these false preachers teaching a bunch of nonsense to fill their churches and get rich and famous off of gullible men and women. Atheism is a religion, evolution is a theory based off of that religion. There is no evidence that God does not exist. They start on that presupposition and interpret the evidence according to it. No matter what they observe, they will never challenge the original presupposition that God does not exist. So of course all their theories will support that conclusion. There is absolutely no proof that evolution is true. In fact it is literally littered with massive gaps and inconsistences. Yet they will never abandon it. Why? Because it is the only thing they have to cling to. They have nothing else. Evolution is a sinking ship that becomes more and more obviously in error the more science advances.

Any "scientific" theory which claims that God does not exist is a theory which has stepped outside the realm of science and into the realm of science fiction. All these mainstream "Scientists" who run around claiming the concept of God is for the ignorant, have automatically lost all credibility. They have no proof and prove they are biased. Since when is science based on assumptions instead of proof? They are pushing an agenda.
Scientific illiteracy is rampant among Fundamentlist Bible literalists. They do not even seem to be ashamed of it. They proudly exhibit their ignorance of science as a sign of their faith in God and belief in the Bible. It is a travesty.
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Old 02-23-2015, 05:07 PM
 
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Scientific illiteracy is rampant among Fundamentlist Bible literalists. They do not even seem to be ashamed of it. They proudly exhibit their ignorance of science as a sign of their faith in God and belief in the Bible. It is a travesty.
Nobody is scientifically illiterate here. Atheism is a blind faith with no proof. Scientists largely have all become indoctrinated with that faith. If God created the universe, and scientists are attempting to create a theory which does not include the possibility of God, than their theories will be completely inaccurate.

You must be one of those people who believe science is "enlightened" and you can look down on people of faith. Yet we use more than just the immediately observable physical evidence to attempt to understand our universe and the nature of our reality.

"Science" will never be able to explain how we came to be here. Because our scientific knowledge tells us that matter and energy are not created from nothing and for no possible reason.

You can sit and pray to your "science" God all you want to fill the holes. but that doesn't make you enlightened.
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Old 02-23-2015, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Based on what? Mainstream science theories by a few men who want to be famous and wealthy? They are no different than all these false preachers teaching a bunch of nonsense to fill their churches and get rich and famous off of gullible men and women. Atheism is a religion, evolution is a theory based off of that religion. There is no evidence that God does not exist. They start on that presupposition and interpret the evidence according to it. No matter what they observe, they will never challenge the original presupposition that God does not exist. So of course all their theories will support that conclusion. There is absolutely no proof that evolution is true. In fact it is literally littered with massive gaps and inconsistences. Yet they will never abandon it. Why? Because it is the only thing they have to cling to. They have nothing else. Evolution is a sinking ship that becomes more and more obviously in error the more science advances.

Any "scientific" theory which claims that God does not exist is a theory which has stepped outside the realm of science and into the realm of science fiction. All these mainstream "Scientists" who run around claiming the concept of God is for the ignorant, have automatically lost all credibility. They have no proof and prove they are biased. Since when is science based on assumptions instead of proof? They are pushing an agenda.
You'll be happy to know there are a handful of other fundavangelists here who share your level of ignorance of all things Science.

We try to reserve more pity than scorn but....
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Old 02-23-2015, 05:14 PM
 
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Carbon dating is based off of the assumption that the earth has been around long enough for the half life of carbon to be reached and surpassed many many times over. If that assumption was false, then so would all of their interpretations of the data
God wants you to ramp up your science. I would start with archeology. God wants you to be well rounded.
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Old 02-23-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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Scientific illiteracy is rampant among Fundamentlist Bible literalists. They do not even seem to be ashamed of it. They proudly exhibit their ignorance of science as a sign of their faith in God and belief in the Bible. It is a travesty.
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Nobody is scientifically illiterate here. Atheism is a blind faith with no proof. Scientists largely have all become indoctrinated with that faith. If God created the universe, and scientists are attempting to create a theory which does not include the possibility of God, than their theories will be completely inaccurate.
You must be one of those people who believe science is "enlightened" and you can look down on people of faith. Yet we use more than just the immediately observable physical evidence to attempt to understand our universe and the nature of our reality.
"Science" will never be able to explain how we came to be here. Because our scientific knowledge tells us that matter and energy are not created from nothing and for no possible reason.
You can sit and pray to your "science" God all you want to fill the holes. but that doesn't make you enlightened.
To keep the record straight . . . I believe in God and Jesus . . . AND evolution. Evolution says NOTHING about whether or not God exists or how life started . . . just how it evolved over time. The Bible CONTAINS inspirations from God but it is NOT God's word. . . Jesus is. Under the New Covenant Jesus abides with us as the Living Word of God and will guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts" in agape love . . . NOT what is "written in ink."
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:34 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Forget what jesus did for us. This poster said to watch the videos for salvation. All this time here I am trusting jesus and what he did. All I had to do was watch the videos.
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Old 02-23-2015, 07:44 PM
 
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Another one.

Oh joy.
This one has YouTube videos though .
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Old 02-23-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: california
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If one's faith cannot exist with out Paul, his faith is vain, and in vain.
And the arguments will continue, preferring Paul's compromised gospel, to Jesus own gospel.
Matthew 7; 21,22,23, Jesus is judge, not Paul nor any other man.
And the judgment will be against those whom lie about Jesus lordship being in them, simply having done works in His name.
The law of the Father is real time ( not just the letter), via the tutelage go the Holy Spirit ,Jesus provides.
With out Whom the angels will not recognize.
God can and does supersede His previous instructions, Just as He did with Moses .
This is why real time obedience is what is expected , as per Jesus example ." I came not to do my own will, but the will of Him that sent Me."
Out side the tutelage of the Holy Spirit, one is essentially in sin.
Self govern, not God govern.
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Old 02-23-2015, 08:13 PM
 
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If one's faith cannot exist with out Paul, his faith is vain, and in vain.
And the arguments will continue, preferring Paul's compromised gospel, to Jesus own gospel.
Matthew 7; 21,22,23, Jesus is judge, not Paul nor any other man.
And the judgment will be against those whom lie about Jesus lordship being in them, simply having done works in His name.
The law of the Father is real time ( not just the letter), via the tutelage go the Holy Spirit ,Jesus provides.
With out Whom the angels will not recognize.
God can and does supersede His previous instructions, Just as He did with Moses .
This is why real time obedience is what is expected , as per Jesus example ." I came not to do my own will, but the will of Him that sent Me."
Out side the tutelage of the Holy Spirit, one is essentially in sin.
Self govern, not God govern.
What contradiction between the teachings of Jesus vs Paul? The words of Jesus are all that is needed to understand the gospel anyways. Paul just elaborates and shows us in more detail what Jesus was saying and the practical application of Jesus's teachings as well as how the church should function. The entire Bible is the Word of God
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Old 02-23-2015, 08:29 PM
 
Location: USA
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For some comic relief closely related to the topic at hand:

The Onion: Christian Groups Say Biblical Armageddon Must Be Taught Alongside Global Warming
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