Many "Christians" have been deceived and are on their way to destruction (believing, mystic)
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To keep the record straight . . . I believe in God and Jesus . . . AND evolution. Evolution says NOTHING about whether or not God exists or how life started . . . just how it evolved over time. The Bible CONTAINS inspirations from God but it is NOT God's word. . . Jesus is. Under the New Covenant Jesus abides with us as the Living Word of God and will guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts" in agape love . . . NOT what is "written in ink."
I apologize MysticPhd, I got worked up and spoke hastily.I just get so tired of the nonsense in the world sometimes and I hate when my brothers and sisters in Christ are made to feel like unintelligent fools for their faith in God and the Bible.
I used to believe in evolution too. I thought it could potentially be harmonious with Christianity. I just came to understand the sheer amount of blind faith mainstream scientists must necessarily possess in order to support the theory. Science is awesome and there is nothing wrong with increasing our knowledge of the physical world. But it is important to understand the common worldview of scientists who are attempting to answer the bigger questions about our existence. Namely, that all things can be understood without taking God into account. Which wouldn't be a problem IF the God of the Bible truly does not exist.
Atheism is a faith. Modern science is based upon that faith. That is modern sciences major glaring flaw (if the God of the Bible truly does exist). No matter how much a person considers himself on the cutting edge of mankind's "achievements" and advances in knowledge, that person has no proof whatsoever. They are just guessing and hoping and putting all their faith in to NOTHING. They don't even have anything to test, unlike people of faith who can test their "holy books" to see if they stand up to all forms of intellectual, ethical, historical criticisms etc.
So there is a big problem with the theory of evolution (besides the logical and scientific problems with it) which prevents it from being accurately and unbiasedly evaluated.
They have no other alternative theory.
They must necessarily stand behind evolution/atheism or else everything they have based the entire scientific community on will crumble. Only some of the more practical or theoretical sciences would be spared from the massacre that would follow. It would be like them having to admit the world was flat after all only a much bigger problem than even that.
The belief in evolution/atheism is central to everything. It is so ingrained in their minds, this belief or theory, that it could not possibly be untrue to them. So instead of looking at it from an unbiased perspective, they look at it as if it were already "scientific fact". Then all their further theories are created in an attempt to support it and understand it.
I could easily look at limitless amounts of data and come up with all sorts of little theories to support something. Anyone could.
Once you cut through all the religious fundamentalism that exists within the scientific community, their once compelling arguments fall flat on their face. There are many fields of study which are making evolution seem less and less viable if not completely impossible (which I believe it is). But they will never be able to see it, they will never be able to see beyond their blind faith.
But they will keep chugging away. Conjuring up little theories about a hand on a mouse in africa, or a fish on the bottom of the ocean etc. Always looking down on people that believe in God as if they were somehow superior to them. More "enlightened, yet they are guilty of the exact same thing. Somehow deceiving themselves into thinking that, "I don't know" is a more sophisticated answer than "God did it".
2 Timothy 3
always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.
Psalm 53
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”
They are corrupt, doing abominable iniquity;
there is none who does good.
2 God looks down from heaven
on the children of man
to see if there are any who understand,
who seek after God.
3 They have all fallen away;
together they have become corrupt;
there is none who does good,
not even one.
4 Have those who work evil no knowledge,
who eat up my people as they eat bread,
and do not call upon God?
I apologize MysticPhd, I got worked up and spoke hastily.
Iod into account. Which wouldn't be a problem IF the God of the Bible truly does not exist.
Atheism is a faith. ......
Once you cut through all the religious fundamentalism that exists within the scientific community, their once compelling arguments fall flat on their face.
2 Timothy 3
always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.
Psalm 53
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”
They are corrupt, doing abominable iniquity;
there is none who does good.
2 God looks down from heaven
on the children of man
to see if there are any who understand,
who seek after God.
3 They have all fallen away;
together they have become corrupt;
there is none who does good,
not even one.
4 Have those who work evil no knowledge,
who eat up my people as they eat bread,
and do not call upon God?
John,
God and science are not mutually exclusive. Religious fundamentalism does not exist in the scientific community.
Science can be tested, re-tested, and tested again. It tests, cause and effect. You form a question, make predictions, and test your hypothesis.
Trying to be exact, is something God promotes,yes? Anything else smacks of a false narrative. Science tries to eliminate the gray areas. Does not god promote certainty? Why are we so afraid of it?
John,
God and science are not mutually exclusive. Religious fundamentalism does not exist in the scientific community.
Science can be tested, re-tested, and tested again. It tests, cause and effect. You form a question, make predictions, and test your hypothesis.
Trying to be exact, is something God promotes,yes? Anything else smacks of a false narrative. Science tries to eliminate the gray areas. Does not god promote certainty? Why are we so afraid of it?
Atheism is a religion. It's no different than Hinduism or Mormonism. An atheist has no proof to support his belief.
Modern science is based on this religion and the assumption that everything
can be explained without taking God into consideration.
Since they do not have any other alternative theories to evolution or the "Big bang" (which provides no explanation at all of how we came to exist) they must necessarily stand behind these theories as "scientific truth"
If God exists, then their theories will automatically in error.
You'd have to reread the previous post maybe
Fundamentalism:
1.strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles:
the fundamentalism of the extreme conservatives.
2.: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles <Islamic fundamentalism> <political fundamentalism>
3. (Christianity) (esp among certain Protestant sects) the belief that every word of the Bible is divinely inspired and therefore true
4. (Islam) a movement favouring strict observance of the teachings of the Koran and Islamic law
5. (Atheism) (esp among certain Scientific sects) the belief that every thing can be understood apart from the existence of God and there for evolution must be true. And that every religion in the world, except for theirs, is stupid and every follower of a religion other than theirs is ignorant and belongs in the dark ages. People who consider a being greater than themselves impossible. Their Bible is the Theory of Evolution by Charles Darwin
6. (Science) (as a religion for the masses) the belief that anyone who calls themself a scientist is infallible. And that saying the word "science" automatically makes something true. Especially popular among those who cannot think for themselves, yet want to be considered intelligent and those who do not understand the difference between facts and theories. Often accompanied by a smug attitude, an unwillingness to listen to people of other faiths or alternative theories on the existence of man, the mocking of God as a "magic sky wizard", and religious/intellectual intolerance especially in educational environments.
Devout followers of the prophets Carl Sagan, Steve Soter, Neil deGrasse Tyson and Richard Dawkins among others
Atheism is a religion. It's no different than Hinduism or Mormonism. An atheist has no proof to support His belief.
Modern science is based on this religion and the assumption that everything
can be explained without taking God into consideration.
Since they do not have any other alternative theories to evolution or the "Big bang" (which provides no explanation at all of how we came to exist) they must necessarily stand behind these theories as "scientific truth"
If God exists, then their theories will automatically in error.
You'd have to reread the previous post maybe
Religious Fundamentalism:
1.strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles:
the fundamentalism of the extreme conservatives.
2.: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles <Islamic fundamentalism> <political fundamentalism>
3. (Christianity) (esp among certain Protestant sects) the belief that every word of the Bible is divinely inspired and therefore true
4. (Islam) a movement favouring strict observance of the teachings of the Koran and Islamic law
5. (Atheism) (esp among certain Scientific sects) the belief that every thing can be understood apart from the existence of God and there for evolution must be true. And that every religion in the world, except for theirs is stupid and every follower of a religion is ignorant and belongs in the dark ages. Their Bible is the Theory of Evolution by Charles Darwin
6. (Science) (as a religion for the masses) the belief that anyone who calls themself a science is infallible. And that saying the word "science" makes something true. especially popular among those who cannot think for themselves, yet want to be considered intelligent and those who do not understand the difference between facts and theories. Often accompanied by a smug attitude, and unwillingness to listen to people of faith, the mocking of God as "a magic sky wizard", and religious/intellectual intolerance especially in educational environments.
Devout followers of the prophets Carl Sagan, Steve Soter, Neil deGrasse Tyson and Richard Dawkins among others
Atheism is a religion. It's no different than Hinduism or Mormonism. An atheist has no proof to support His belief.
Balderdash. There is no "belief" that needs supporting. That's the whole point. You do realize that non-belief is different from belief, right?
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Originally Posted by john233
Modern science is based on this religion and the assumption that everything
can be explained without taking God into consideration.
It should be obvious why "God did it" is not a scientific explanation. If "God" is a satisfactory answer to everything we don't understand, what's the point of scientific investigation at all?
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Originally Posted by john233
Since they do not have any other alternative theories to evolution or the "Big bang" (which provides no explanation at all of how we came to exist) they must necessarily stand behind these theories as "scientific truth"
You have outed yourself as a scientific illiterate. Saying "God did it" is the cop-out of the ages; it's not an alternative explanation at all, but rather an admission of ignorance.
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Originally Posted by john233
If God exists, then their theories will automatically in error.
If God exists then we don't need science, since God already "explains" everything in the universe:
Why didn't my car start? God. Why did I get sick? God. Where do babies come from? God. Why is the sky blue? God. Why do cracks form in pavement? God. What causes lightning? God. What makes an airplane fly? God. How is electricity generated? God...
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Originally Posted by john233
Religious Fundamentalism:
1.strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles:
the fundamentalism of the extreme conservatives.
2.: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles <Islamic fundamentalism> <political fundamentalism>
3. (Christianity) (esp among certain Protestant sects) the belief that every word of the Bible is divinely inspired and therefore true
4. (Islam) a movement favouring strict observance of the teachings of the Koran and Islamic law
5. (Atheism) (esp among certain Scientific sects) the belief that every thing can be understood apart from the existence of God and there for evolution must be true. And that every religion in the world, except for theirs is stupid and every follower of a religion is ignorant and belongs in the dark ages
Ah, the "atheism is a fundamentalist religion" gambit. It's used all the time, but it's baloney. It's an attempt to draw a false equivalency between blind faith and not accepting blind faith.
Atheism is a religion like not believing in Santa Claus is a religion.
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